That is a poppycock argument from the both of you. One event is considerably downplayed compared to the other event and yet that is deemed correct in the eyes of many. The Nazi holocaust is the holocaust to end all other holocausts, but that quite clearly wasn't the case. Arguably over 100 million people died in the Americas which means that we should give just as much time to it, but we don't. Instead in the North American example we make childrens rhymes about Indians, play cowboys and Indians and have John Wayne acting as the proud Amercan. In many respects we glamorised the North American genocide and nobody would ever dream of doing that with the Nazi holocaust and rightly so. It would be sick and twisted which is what Tito accuses me of being.

I am not trying to downplay anything, Tito. I am simply arguing that the holocaust was not a Jewish phenomenom and that the numbers are likely considerably exaggerated. I am sorry if I lack sympathy for the imaginary dead, but for all the others of course I am appalled, but likewise am appalled by the treatment of communists, radicals, homosexuals, the handicapped etc (no Beanz, I don't see the point in the paralympics. Just get a job) and I am appalled at the treatment of all others involved in atrocities commited with the goal of wiping out sectors of a populace.

Lyle, many Native Indians died from hunger and disease and so did many Jews and other victims of the Nazi holocaust. I don't see how those views are incombatable.

I am busy with work these days and only seem to get a post or two in each day and I think I said a while back that I think my views have been expressed. I maintain that admitting an event can not be considered denial. It is a flagrant abuse of the word denial. 'You interpret something differently. You are denying the event'. It is such a childish attitude. People get put in prison in so called free countries for this and and it is ridiculous.