Pac-Naz - we now have definitve proof. Fact.

[Fenster]

Well that maybe so, Adam

But you can't deny we now have concrete evidence that Pac storming forward against a counter puncher, especially with the devastating power and timing of Naz, is a recipe for disaster?

It's borderline impossible to make a case for Pac beating Naz. Lets be honest.

[AdamGB]

Pac is no Kevin Kelly, that's for sure.

[p4pking]

In all seriousness, there's nothing to suggest Hamed wouldn't have had a good(hypothetical) chance against either Pacquiao or Marquez, while they were still operating at or below 130 pounds. Naz and Pacquiao at that weight would have been a tremendous stlystic matchup to boot.

What we do know is that Naseem never stuck around long enough to give any indication of whether he could've climbed up in weight and still been effective, much less dominant. Last night was a fight between two great welterweights, Hamed never showed anything to suggest he could've lived with either of these men in their present form. What Manny and Marquez have both done over the last few years is nothing short of incredible, fact.

[beenKOed]

Well that maybe so, Adam

But you can't deny we now have concrete evidence that Pac storming forward against a counter puncher, especially with the devastating power and timing of Naz, is a recipe for disaster?

It's borderline impossible to make a case for Pac beating Naz. Lets be honest.

Everything in the ring is a recipe for disaster, if you lose! I'm not trying to take anything away from Marquez, that was as good a one punch KO as anyone will ever see.
Would you consider that Manny was trying to steal the round in the last 10 seconds and got careless. Would you consider that Marquez knew Manny would do that very thing and after, I don't know how many rounds over I don't know how many years finally put it all together to bring about a terrific KO.
Wouldn't any boxing fan expect one or the other of them to figure how to finish off the other guy after that many rounds over that many years.