Addressing the PED problem

[Beanflicker]

Facts? You wouldn't know a fact if it came up and slapped your pimply face. WTF does your hard-on for Trinidad's wraps have to do with PEDs? That took whatever credibility you were hoping to have right out the window. After that you just become a sad little fool.

PED testing is expensive, twerp. But having brain-damaged fighters, not to mention the continuing damage to the sport by the PED issue.... is more expensive in the long run. Repeating something I said earlier.... cost should not be an excuse to try and clean up the sport. There's plenty of money in boxing, and some of it can be used for research and/or testing. To do nothing but sit there with your thumbs up your ass.... bellyaching about so-and-so testing positive for PEDs.... is pathetic. Better some action than no action at all.

My credibility? You'd think defending Tito, a guy who GOT FUCKING CAUGHT WITH ILLEGAL HANDWRAPS, would damage YOUR credibilty. But that would require you to have some kind of footing in logic and reason, which you've made clear that you don't.

You've come up with a solution that makes absolutely no sense. You have absolutely no facts or logic on your side. Your knowledge of PED's is close to nothing. Pipe down and let people who took the time to educate themselves handle the problem.

[TitoFan]

Facts? You wouldn't know a fact if it came up and slapped your pimply face. WTF does your hard-on for Trinidad's wraps have to do with PEDs? That took whatever credibility you were hoping to have right out the window. After that you just become a sad little fool.

PED testing is expensive, twerp. But having brain-damaged fighters, not to mention the continuing damage to the sport by the PED issue.... is more expensive in the long run. Repeating something I said earlier.... cost should not be an excuse to try and clean up the sport. There's plenty of money in boxing, and some of it can be used for research and/or testing. To do nothing but sit there with your thumbs up your ass.... bellyaching about so-and-so testing positive for PEDs.... is pathetic. Better some action than no action at all.

My credibility? You'd think defending Tito, a guy who GOT FUCKING CAUGHT WITH ILLEGAL HANDWRAPS, would damage YOUR credibilty. But that would require you to have some kind of footing in logic and reason, which you've made clear that you don't.

You've come up with a solution that makes absolutely no sense. You have absolutely no facts or logic on your side. Your knowledge of PED's is close to nothing. Pipe down and let people who took the time to educate themselves handle the problem.

You have no clue as to what illegal handwraps are. You're just a hater... and it oozes out of your pores. You're also an ostrich with your head stuck up your ass. A "negative Nancy" who says nothing can be done to solve what everyone else agrees is a problem. If you're that way in real life... you must be one sorry, pathetic individual.

[Beanflicker]

You have no clue as to what illegal handwraps are. You're just a hater... and it oozes out of your pores. You're also an ostrich with your head stuck up your ass. A "negative Nancy" who says nothing can be done to solve what everyone else agrees is a problem. If you're that way in real life... you must be one sorry, pathetic individual.

Again, absolutely no substance or facts.

I would love to solve the PED problem. That's not my issue. My issue is your "solution" is retarded and doesn't work. Calling me an ostrich or a "Negative Nancy" (LOL) doesn't change that fact. This is why people like you don't get to change things and have a say: because you're stupid.

PS. Bouie Fisher sure as hell knew what illegal handwraps were, and your boy got caught... just before he caught BHOP's right hand and caught a nap.

[TitoFan]

You have no clue as to what illegal handwraps are. You're just a hater... and it oozes out of your pores. You're also an ostrich with your head stuck up your ass. A "negative Nancy" who says nothing can be done to solve what everyone else agrees is a problem. If you're that way in real life... you must be one sorry, pathetic individual.

Again, absolutely no substance or facts.

I would love to solve the PED problem. That's not my issue. My issue is your "solution" is retarded and doesn't work. Calling me an ostrich or a "Negative Nancy" (LOL) doesn't change that fact. This is why people like you don't get to change things and have a say: because you're stupid.

PS. Bouie Fisher sure as hell knew what illegal handwraps were, and your boy got caught... just before he caught BHOP's right hand and caught a nap.

These are illegal handwraps, asswipe. Trinidad had the same wraps for years and almost 40 fights before Hopkins' corner decided to play mind games and object to the method of wrapping the tape. It is well documented that there was nothing illegal about the wrapping, only that Richardson wanted it changed. Mind games.... something only someone with an actual mind can understand, leaving your ass out.

I'm not giving you a diagram of how to solve the PED problem, only stating that yes it takes money. And there's money in boxing to put into the solution. That's all. Doing something is better than bitching and moaning like you obviously like to do.

[Beanflicker]

I'm not giving you a diagram of how to solve the PED problem, only stating that yes it takes money. And there's money in boxing to put into the solution. That's all. Doing something is better than bitching and moaning like you obviously like to do.

I'm not bitching and moaning. I'm telling you the legitimate, real world problems that this proposed system is going to run into. "I DONT CARE LETS JUST THROW MONEY AT THE PROBLEM AND HOPE IT GOES AWAY" is never the right solution. You have to think critically and come up with the most efficient way to do it, not just say "OH SOME MAGICAL GOVERNING BODY THAT DOESN'T EXIST SHOULD JUST TAKE THE MONEY FROM THE BIG PROMOTERS AND MAKE THIS PROBLEM GO AWAY". It's just rediculous.

No one's arguing that there's not enough money in boxing to do it. There's enough money in the bank accounts of rich people to end poverty. The problem is, you don't get to just force the wealthy to hand over their money because you think they should. The world doesn't work like that. What about this concept do you not understand?? As far as I know you haven't refuted anything I've said, you've just accused me of bitching and being a Negative Nancy.

I've never seen so much concentrated idiocy in one thread before. I keep expecting you to just admit you're trolling me.

[beenKOed]

I'm not giving you a diagram of how to solve the PED problem, only stating that yes it takes money. And there's money in boxing to put into the solution. That's all. Doing something is better than bitching and moaning like you obviously like to do.

I'm not bitching and moaning. I'm telling you the legitimate, real world problems that this proposed system is going to run into. "I DONT CARE LETS JUST THROW MONEY AT THE PROBLEM AND HOPE IT GOES AWAY" is never the right solution. You have to think critically and come up with the most efficient way to do it, not just say "OH SOME MAGICAL GOVERNING BODY THAT DOESN'T EXIST SHOULD JUST TAKE THE MONEY FROM THE BIG PROMOTERS AND MAKE THIS PROBLEM GO AWAY". It's just rediculous.

No one's arguing that there's not enough money in boxing to do it. There's enough money in the bank accounts of rich people to end poverty. The problem is, you don't get to just force the wealthy to hand over their money because you think they should. The world doesn't work like that. What about this concept do you not understand?? As far as I know you haven't refuted anything I've said, you've just accused me of bitching and being a Negative Nancy.

I've never seen so much concentrated idiocy in one thread before. I keep expecting you to just admit you're trolling me.

It's a shame everyone doesn't agree with everything you say, but we're not your wife or children and really don't give a shit if you get pissed.

We--all of us--are allowed to have an oppinion, even if it differs from yours, without being called an idiot.

It's hard sometimes, but civility is the trademark of an adult. I have spoken. lol

[Beanflicker]

It's a shame everyone doesn't agree with everything you say, but we're not your wife or children and really don't give a shit if you get pissed.

We--all of us--are allowed to have an oppinion, even if it differs from yours, without being called an idiot.

It's hard sometimes, but civility is the trademark of an adult. I have spoken. lol

If you don't agree with what I say, which means you think I am wrong, you should be able to tell me why I'm wrong. Nobody has even TRIED to do that. It's just a bunch of intellectual midgets who can't have a debate.

I'm not pissed, and I didn't start insulting him personally until he insulted me.

You picked a good name, because you debate like a guy who has suffered through a brain injury or two.

[Beanflicker]

Should be mentioned too that there is no global governing body. Athletic commisions vary from state to state (for example, Texas would allow Edwin Valero and Margarito to get a license and fight when no other state would.)

So ok, let's say you get the big one (Nevada) to agree to impliment this new "Testing Tax" on the big guys like Top Rank, GBP, ect. What's to stop the promoter from saying "Ok, well instead of having Floyd vs Pac in Vegas where I'm going to lose a big percentage of my profits to this new tax, I'm going to hold it in New Jersey."

Let's say somehow you get the whole country to agree to it. What's to stop the promoter from holding his big fight in Mexico, England, or a big Canadian city like Toronto or Montreal? This is why the big companies set up overseas: to avoid taxes.

So instead of replying with a "DURRRHHH MONEY EXCUSE COP OUT COP OUT DURRRHH TAX THE RICH TAX THE RICH", why don't you tell me how we avoid this situation?