Why is Ward so against Froch-Kessler 2??

[Tam Seddon]

http://www.boxingscene.com/andre-ward-rips-froch-kessler-ii-jabs-carl-eddie-hearn--60832

I don't see the problem with Froch-Kessler 2 in the slightest it was a lot more exciting that Froch-Ward or Kessler-Ward and it was a very close fight. I don't see any problem with Froch wanting to avenge the loss and Froch is highly rated after battering Bute. Ward is fighting Pavlik, how is that a good fight?

I have no doubt that if Froch can beat Kessler he would love to fight Ward again, why does Ward think Froch wouldn't want this rematch too? Froch has said on many occasions he wants the rematch but after Kessler. I think Ward is annoyed because he's not in the limelight.

[Dropanuke]

I think it's because he knows he isn't in the top ten supermids when it comes to excitement!

[Dropanuke]

He knows he doesn't have to be beaten to be the number 1!!

[IamInuit]

It kills me at the degree that Joe is scrutinized and this man isn't. Froch/Kessler 2 is a mistake but him v Pavlik is not?

[Mars_ax]

http://www.boxingscene.com/andre-ward-rips-froch-kessler-ii-jabs-carl-eddie-hearn--60832

I don't see the problem with Froch-Kessler 2 in the slightest it was a lot more exciting that Froch-Ward or Kessler-Ward and it was a very close fight. I don't see any problem with Froch wanting to avenge the loss and Froch is highly rated after battering Bute. Ward is fighting Pavlik, how is that a good fight?

I have no doubt that if Froch can beat Kessler he would love to fight Ward again, why does Ward think Froch wouldn't want this rematch too? Froch has said on many occasions he wants the rematch but after Kessler. I think Ward is annoyed because he's not in the limelight.

Ward isn't in the "limelight" for a reason, he just isn't a popular champion, it's also the reason Ward doesn't get PPV money. In re: Froch vs Ward II, what other big name/money fight is there for Ward @168? So I can't imagine why he wouldn't want the fight, unless of course it's because Froch wants it in Nottingham.

[p4pking]

It kills me at the degree that Joe is scrutinized and this man isn't. Froch/Kessler 2 is a mistake but him v Pavlik is not?

It's just that Ward really doesn't have anyone to fight aside from those two. Pavlik is probably the biggest money/name scalp out there, if he's stupid enough to sign to fight Ward then we're stuck with that.

[ross]

Hes just a bitter little bitch.

Hes jealous that Froch is now a bigger name than him because of the Bute fight. Also, he probably wants to point out that the Mack fight means nothing because Mack was weight drained but he cant say that now can he...

No matter what Ward does, he will never be a big money fighter. Hes not all that skilled, or has power. Hes fragile and needs to hold. Bika had him hurt and he ran and held. He put alot of fans off with that awfull showing against Kessler. His whole "style" is just disrupting the rythm of another fighter, which for him means holding and rubbing his head in.

[Violent Demise]

Hes just a bitter little bitch.

Hes jealous that Froch is now a bigger name than him because of the Bute fight. Also, he probably wants to point out that the Mack fight means nothing because Mack was weight drained but he cant say that now can he...

No matter what Ward does, he will never be a big money fighter. Hes not all that skilled, or has power. Hes fragile and needs to hold. Bika had him hurt and he ran and held. He put alot of fans off with that awfull showing against Kessler. His whole "style" is just disrupting the rythm of another fighter, which for him means holding and rubbing his head in.

So what you're saying is Froch lost to a fragile, unskilled fighter with no power, right? That can't be good

[imp]

Hes just a bitter little bitch.

Hes jealous that Froch is now a bigger name than him because of the Bute fight. Also, he probably wants to point out that the Mack fight means nothing because Mack was weight drained but he cant say that now can he...

No matter what Ward does, he will never be a big money fighter. Hes not all that skilled, or has power. Hes fragile and needs to hold. Bika had him hurt and he ran and held. He put alot of fans off with that awfull showing against Kessler. His whole "style" is just disrupting the rythm of another fighter, which for him means holding and rubbing his head in.

So what you're saying is Froch lost to a fragile, unskilled fighter with no power, right? That can't be good

Exactly.

I like froch but ward had his number in that fight. I am sure froch has a better chance than anyone in winning the rematch but while thats not happening, ward needs to stay busy and keep fighting.

At least ward is prepared to give rematches and the win over southpaw dawson was quite an impressive fight.

Ward is getting better..every fight.

[ross]

As I have always said, Froch isnt very skilled but has deluded himself in to thinking he is. His strength is litterally his strength. If he gets a match with Ward he just needs to pour it on and not try and box with Ward. Im sure he could do what Nika did. In fact Froch is better skilled than Bika. He needs to do what I said he needed to do against Bute and that was to stop trying to load up and just make the punches land and start faster and he did it and even said in the interview after thefight that he was told by McCracken not to load up, just work and start sooner.

If he can do that against Ward he would have Ward in his little desperate mode much earlier then he can turn it up and make him wilt.

[mightyfighter]

Ward is the best at Super Middleweight and one the P4P best simply because he's very smart and technically superior to everyone else. Unfortunately, this doesn't always mean "excitement".

Froch on the other hand is a crude boxer and powerful fighter who's willing to slug it out. He's more exciting than Ward.

[ross]

Ward is the best at Super Middleweight and one the P4P best simply because he's very smart and technically superior to everyone else. Unfortunately, this doesn't always mean "excitement".

Froch on the other hand is a crude boxer and powerful fighter who's willing to slug it out. He's more exciting than Ward.

Holding is not skill!!!

When Mayweather fought Ortiz who was probably the strongest fighter he had fought he didnt just lurch in to hold.

[Violent Demise]

Ward is the best at Super Middleweight and one the P4P best simply because he's very smart and technically superior to everyone else. Unfortunately, this doesn't always mean "excitement".

Froch on the other hand is a crude boxer and powerful fighter who's willing to slug it out. He's more exciting than Ward.

Holding is not skill!!!

When Mayweather fought Ortiz who was probably the strongest fighter he had fought he didnt just lurch in to hold.

Ricky Hatton would tell you otherwise

[Dropanuke]

Ward beat froch that's true but ward knows that regardless of his hand he was fucking puffing in round 9 and fear was sinking in like with Taylor!
He realised froch is rocky balboa in the flesh but with great skill!
Froch is no douche/slouch!
He is a very good boxer and better slugger!
What he did to Johnson is what he would have done to hagler!!

Ward knows he might lose to froch and froch is the only guy in the last and future 200 years that could beat him in any weight so he wants Hearn to make him a huge 5-10 million offer to make it worth the loss!
Ward is so protected by USA and the fans protect him too!
He is a paper champ and is what is wrong with boxing!

[ruthless rocco]

Hes just a bitter little bitch.

Hes jealous that Froch is now a bigger name than him because of the Bute fight. Also, he probably wants to point out that the Mack fight means nothing because Mack was weight drained but he cant say that now can he...

No matter what Ward does, he will never be a big money fighter. Hes not all that skilled, or has power. Hes fragile and needs to hold. Bika had him hurt and he ran and held. He put alot of fans off with that awfull showing against Kessler. His whole "style" is just disrupting the rythm of another fighter, which for him means holding and rubbing his head in.

So what you're saying is Froch lost to a fragile, unskilled fighter with no power, right? That can't be good

Exactly.

I like froch but ward had his number in that fight. I am sure froch has a better chance than anyone in winning the rematch but while thats not happening, ward needs to stay busy and keep fighting.

At least ward is prepared to give rematches and the win over southpaw dawson was quite an impressive fight.

Ward is getting better..every fight.

dawson isn't very good. beating him is no great accomplishment.