Ward pulls out of Pavlik fight for shoulder surgury. Pavlik-Bute possible

[bzkfn]

Abraham-Pavlik is a very fun fight.

I just want to point out one thing about Bute. Bute had trouble with Froch, but he beat other good pressure fighters, arguably more "pressure style" than Froch - Glen Johnson, Sakio Bika, and Librado Andrade. I think Froch actually just out-thought Bute -- and did it with pressure, if that make sense. I view Froch as more of a thinker than brawler. Might just be me.

Very good point. Froch is a thinker at times, but I felt thought process went out of the window and he decided that swarming Bute was the answer. When Andrade did this in the last round of the first fight, Bute had no answer. Pavlik did this to Miranda, so he is capable of it. I'm more making the argument of a 50-50 fight, but I should point out that I don't believe Pavlik would win it. I think he lacked confidence ever since the staph infection flared up. He was doubting himself in the corner when Espino wouldn't wilt, so I think it's unlikely he'll ever get that back. Hopkins kinda took his soul.

Would you be impressed with a stoppage by Bute?

Very. Nobody has stopped Pavlik so it would be an achievement to do that.

[Master]

Ward is doing the right thing he does not have to risk fighting Pavlik with a injured shoulder. It is better to get it repaired and ready for the winner of Froch v Kessler. Ward could easily find another interim opponent to beat this year such as Abrahams.

[ross]

I doubt Abrahams promoters will be putting him in with any threats unless its for big money and or at home in Germany. They have invested alot of money in him and want a return.

[Gandalf]

Pavlik needs a proper top 6 tune up first anyway. We don't really know where he is right now with these lower level tune ups.

[Hulk]

Pavlik needs a proper top 6 tune up first anyway. We don't really know where he is right now with these lower level tune ups.

Spot on.

There is no way Pavlik was going to beat Ward outside landing one big shot. Had a punchers chance is all.

Pavlik vs. the semi-fragile Bute would be awesome.

[mrbig1]

Who would want to see Ward beat the hell out of Pavlik? Pavlik vs Bute would sell more PPV.