Welcome to Cain's era.

**VictorCharlie** · 01-01-2013 04:15 PM

I'm not really sure what Reem does better than JDS. He is probably a little more versatile of a striker but I don't think he has any more power and I don't think his handspeed/footwork is better. He is bigger and stronger but I don't think his tdd is tremendously better if at all. His cardio is what would worry me. Reem is a big talented striker so he isn't an easy out for Cain or JDS but my money would be on Cain.

**Beanflicker** · 01-02-2013 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by VictorCharlie

I'm not really sure what Reem does better than JDS.

JDS probably has the better hands, but Overeem is much better at everything else. Cain is going to have to mind his P's and Q's against Overeem, because if he telegraphs his shot as much as he did against JDS, Reem can time him coming in with a knee. Reem is also stronger and more effective in the clinch. So getting inside on Reem will be much more dangerous, and once he is inside it won't be as easy to control Reem and avoid damage as it was with JDS.

That being said, if Cain can get inside and really push Reem, I think he'll wear Reem down quicker than he did JDS.

Overeem doesn't have as good a chin as JDS does, either.

It's a VERY interesting fight.

**p4pking** · 01-02-2013 09:54 PM

I thought both men looked/are pretty crap. Dos Santos seemed to have no gas after about 45 seconds and he wasn't even throwing much before he tired out, then Velasquez basically couldn't get a rag doll out of there given 25 minutes. The UFC heavyweights make boxing look like it has depth

That was a shit fight between two toughmen to me.

**mattboxingfan** · 01-03-2013 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by p4pking

I thought both men looked/are pretty crap. Dos Santos seemed to have no gas after about 45 seconds and he wasn't even throwing much before he tired out, then Velasquez basically couldn't get a rag doll out of there given 25 minutes. The UFC heavyweights make boxing look like it has depth

That was a shit fight between two toughmen to me.

Why did you watch it then? Some people are beyond stupid.

**p4pking** · 01-03-2013 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by mattboxingfan

Originally Posted by p4pking

I thought both men looked/are pretty crap. Dos Santos seemed to have no gas after about 45 seconds and he wasn't even throwing much before he tired out, then Velasquez basically couldn't get a rag doll out of there given 25 minutes. The UFC heavyweights make boxing look like it has depth

That was a shit fight between two toughmen to me.

Why did you watch it then? Some people are beyond stupid.

My roomate had a bunch of people over and ordered it, how was I to know the main event would be so shit. I enjoyed a couple of the undercard fights for what they were.

**mattboxingfan** · 01-04-2013 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by p4pking

Originally Posted by mattboxingfan

Originally Posted by p4pking

I thought both men looked/are pretty crap. Dos Santos seemed to have no gas after about 45 seconds and he wasn't even throwing much before he tired out, then Velasquez basically couldn't get a rag doll out of there given 25 minutes. The UFC heavyweights make boxing look like it has depth

That was a shit fight between two toughmen to me.

Why did you watch it then? Some people are beyond stupid.

My roomate had a bunch of people over and ordered it, how was I to know the main event would be so shit. I enjoyed a couple of the undercard fights for what they were.

You like hating on MMA yet you watch it? If you don't enjoy something why waste your time watching it? Why waste your time in the MMA section of the forum just to talk shit? Some people are fucking helpless.