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    Default Re: Tyson Fury wants to fight the UFC Heavyweight champion?

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Haha, kind of a neat video I guess but taking raw data from simple tests like that isn't exactly the end all measure of athletecism. All that proves is that he's in great shape, and very powerful. I'm sure most NFL players would put up huge numbers in a setting like that as well. It's the intangibles and finesse, individual skillsets which really seperate elite guys from those who are merely physical beasts. I'd bet all kinds of phenomenally talented athletes wouldn't score very highly at all on tests like that, but so what.
    No doubt, I'm not saying he's a Bo Jackson or a Michael Phelps, but the guy is an incredible athletic specimen and a cardio machine. The fight with Junior was a bad indication because I think there were a lot of nerves involved and the grappling game is INCREDIBLY taxing no matter how conditioned you are. You take a supremely conditioned boxer like Mayweather and have him grapple with guys and he'll gas out, it's just a different world.

    But I do agree that saying Cain would beat Tyson in boxing is going a little far. Cain had no striking training until he was out of college in 2005 or 06, so if Tyson Fury was to lose to him in a boxing match I think that would be VERY embarrassing.

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury wants to fight the UFC Heavyweight champion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Haha, kind of a neat video I guess but taking raw data from simple tests like that isn't exactly the end all measure of athletecism. All that proves is that he's in great shape, and very powerful. I'm sure most NFL players would put up huge numbers in a setting like that as well. It's the intangibles and finesse, individual skillsets which really seperate elite guys from those who are merely physical beasts. I'd bet all kinds of phenomenally talented athletes wouldn't score very highly at all on tests like that, but so what.
    No doubt, I'm not saying he's a Bo Jackson or a Michael Phelps, but the guy is an incredible athletic specimen and a cardio machine. The fight with Junior was a bad indication because I think there were a lot of nerves involved and the grappling game is INCREDIBLY taxing no matter how conditioned you are. You take a supremely conditioned boxer like Mayweather and have him grapple with guys and he'll gas out, it's just a different world.

    But I do agree that saying Cain would beat Tyson in boxing is going a little far. Cain had no striking training until he was out of college in 2005 or 06, so if Tyson Fury was to lose to him in a boxing match I think that would be VERY embarrassing.
    Fury had his first amateur fight in 2005 (I think). He fought Price in 2006 but only had around 10 fights.

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury wants to fight the UFC Heavyweight champion?

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Fury had his first amateur fight in 2005 (I think). He fought Price in 2006 but only had around 10 fights.
    Ah, don't know much about Fury like I said.

    Even still, Cain trains striking for MMA, which is kickboxing and strikes to help close distance and set up takedowns. Fury has been training nothing but boxing for boxing. So I think it would be very far fetched to believe Cain would have anything other than a puncher's chance against Fury.

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury wants to fight the UFC Heavyweight champion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Fury had his first amateur fight in 2005 (I think). He fought Price in 2006 but only had around 10 fights.
    Ah, don't know much about Fury like I said.

    Even still, Cain trains striking for MMA, which is kickboxing and strikes to help close distance and set up takedowns. Fury has been training nothing but boxing for boxing. So I think it would be very far fetched to believe Cain would have anything other than a puncher's chance against Fury.
    For clarification, this is what I was implying. Cain has a pretty decent punch power, and I don't think Fury has the best chin. So like I said, if they boxed, I genuinely wouldn't be stunned if Cain stopped him. More my low opinion of Fury than anything else.

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury wants to fight the UFC Heavyweight champion?

    I really don't know enough about Fury to make a judgement. Cain hits like a truck though, his punch was measured on Sport Science as having 2230lbs of force or around there. All it takes is one on the button.

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury wants to fight the UFC Heavyweight champion?

    I thought it was disrespectful of JDS to say he could KO a Klitschko, but even he wasn't hurling insults at them.

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury wants to fight the UFC Heavyweight champion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    I thought it was disrespectful of JDS to say he could KO a Klitschko, but even he wasn't hurling insults at them.

    It's an insult in itself to say that, moreso than Fury being the twit he is to get some attention. To suggest he would even have a prayer of getting out of the first round of a boxing match with either Klitschko is assinine. It would be like Tyson Fury saying he'd slam Cain to the ground and choke him out, no different at all in fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    I really don't know enough about Fury to make a judgement. Cain hits like a truck though, his punch was measured on Sport Science as having 2230lbs of force or around there. All it takes is one on the button.
    Love the way the UFC throw cheap shots at boxing all the time "that's higher then any boxer we've tested"

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