I can't remember seeing a better fighter than prime Floyd Mayweather Jr

[erics44]

There were trainers, like Ray Arcel, who saw fighters from the 20's up to the 90's. They had the historical perspective to be able to analyze contemporary greatness. There are others like him.

dont know what you mean

He means that to analyse the best fighters you'd have to ask an expert who has been there through a long time period. A trainer like Ray Arcel would have seen it all. Hard to argue with that.

yeah he's spot on with that, Ray would have all the answers

anyone got his number?

[bzkfn]

There were trainers, like Ray Arcel, who saw fighters from the 20's up to the 90's. They had the historical perspective to be able to analyze contemporary greatness. There are others like him.

dont know what you mean

He means that to analyse the best fighters you'd have to ask an expert who has been there through a long time period. A trainer like Ray Arcel would have seen it all. Hard to argue with that.

yeah he's spot on with that, Ray would have all the answers

anyone got his number?

eric being a dick as usual I see.

Asking someone who was there is just better than asking someone who is witnessing a grainy black and white picture, or what they've read from a newspaper cutting. That goes without saying. Nobody is sat there saying that guy has all the answers, just that they would have a more informed opinion having seen things first hand.

[erics44]

There were trainers, like Ray Arcel, who saw fighters from the 20's up to the 90's. They had the historical perspective to be able to analyze contemporary greatness. There are others like him.

dont know what you mean

He means that to analyse the best fighters you'd have to ask an expert who has been there through a long time period. A trainer like Ray Arcel would have seen it all. Hard to argue with that.

yeah he's spot on with that, Ray would have all the answers

anyone got his number?

eric being a dick as usual I see.

Asking someone who was there is just better than asking someone who is witnessing a grainy black and white picture, or what they've read from a newspaper cutting. That goes without saying. Nobody is sat there saying that guy has all the answers, just that they would have a more informed opinion having seen things first hand.

oi, what do you mean as usual

thing is, im not really interested if ray is the man or not, if he isnt a member of saddo and cant contribute to the thread then how is he gonna help?