Golovkin is the future of the MW division!

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

What fight were you watching because I seen GR land a few jabs and get battered the rest of the time against a fighter who was ill prior to the bout. He wasn't even 100%.

Proksa and Rosado would have given any of the top 160-pounders a challenge regardless of how highly u rate them! Golovkin beat down two experienced, in-their-prime, well-schooled fighters — fighters who came in to win, didn’t give up, but were beat up, bloodied, and stopped. Give the guy his dues...

Golovkin was lined up for Geale, but Geale went elsewhere (i.e. Mundine).

Golovkin was signed to fight Pirog, but Pirog pulled out with injury.

Golovkin called out Sturm for two years, and Sturm continually went elsewhere (up until Geale beat his ass).

And rumours are around the net that Quillin was soundly beaten up by Golovkin in the gym (the rumour is that Golovkin actually KO’ed him, which is VERY rare for sparring, but reports consistently state that Golovkin spars hard)… and in an interview with Quillin on ESB he didn’t deny it… he just vaguely sidestepped the question.

Yes he needs to fight better competition, but it’s THE COMPETITION that is avoiding him, not the other way around. Does anyone really think Geale would beat a 100% GGG? 2013 is GGG's year.

Can't wait to see Pirog back too.

[Dia bando]

What fight were you watching because I seen GR land a few jabs and get battered the rest of the time against a fighter who was ill prior to the bout. He wasn't even 100%.

Proksa and Rosado would have given any of the top 160-pounders a challenge regardless of how highly u rate them! Golovkin beat down two experienced, in-their-prime, well-schooled fighters — fighters who came in to win, didn’t give up, but were beat up, bloodied, and stopped. Give the guy his dues...

Golovkin was lined up for Geale, but Geale went elsewhere (i.e. Mundine).

Golovkin was signed to fight Pirog, but Pirog pulled out with injury.

Golovkin called out Sturm for two years, and Sturm continually went elsewhere (up until Geale beat his ass).

And rumours are around the net that Quillin was soundly beaten up by Golovkin in the gym (the rumour is that Golovkin actually KO’ed him, which is VERY rare for sparring, but reports consistently state that Golovkin spars hard)… and in an interview with Quillin on ESB he didn’t deny it… he just vaguely sidestepped the question.

Yes he needs to fight better competition, but it’s THE COMPETITION that is avoiding him, not the other way around. Does anyone really think Geale would beat a 100% GGG? 2013 is GGG's year.

Can't wait to see Pirog back too.

What you are saying is he is being avoided, I can't blame them the 3 top rated Brit's should give this
guy a wide berth.If they do I can see it ending in tears for them.

[Rantcatrat]

Because Golovkin didn't flatten Rosado in the way that many out there predicted he would, Golovkin now looks vulnerable. Consider though that Golovkin won every single round and that Rosado's face looked like a bloody mess when the fight was finished. Rosado is a junior middleweight but he is a big junior middleweight. I say that just because I didn't see a big size difference in the fight. I also have a higher opinion of Rosado than other people here. I think he's a cagey, calculated fighter...and, Golovkin beat him him pretty easily.

All that said, Rosado isn't a top ten middleweight. Golovkin still needs a defining fight at middleweight before we can start suggesting he would beat the lineal champion. It's unfair to Martinez.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Because Golovkin didn't flatten Rosado in the way that many out there predicted he would, Golovkin now looks vulnerable. Consider though that Golovkin won every single round and that Rosado's face looked like a bloody mess when the fight was finished. Rosado is a junior middleweight but he is a big junior middleweight. I say that just because I didn't see a big size difference in the fight. I also have a higher opinion of Rosado than other people here. I think he's a cagey, calculated fighter...and, Golovkin beat him him pretty easily.

All that said, Rosado isn't a top ten middleweight. Golovkin still needs a defining fight at middleweight before we can start suggesting he would beat the lineal champion. It's unfair to Martinez.

I agree with most of that. Who do u want to see him fight next? Pirog or Barker would be good.

[Master]

I would like him to fight Quillon, Geale or Strum.

[Rantcatrat]

Because Golovkin didn't flatten Rosado in the way that many out there predicted he would, Golovkin now looks vulnerable. Consider though that Golovkin won every single round and that Rosado's face looked like a bloody mess when the fight was finished. Rosado is a junior middleweight but he is a big junior middleweight. I say that just because I didn't see a big size difference in the fight. I also have a higher opinion of Rosado than other people here. I think he's a cagey, calculated fighter...and, Golovkin beat him him pretty easily.

All that said, Rosado isn't a top ten middleweight. Golovkin still needs a defining fight at middleweight before we can start suggesting he would beat the lineal champion. It's unfair to Martinez.

I agree with most of that. Who do u want to see him fight next? Pirog or Barker would be good.

With regard to Barker, I think Hearn should use his magic and get him a higher-level fight against Geale or Quillin, before Barker challenges GGG. But, I guess if the fight is offered, it might be heard to turn down for Barker, depending on the money involved.

From what I gather, N'Jikam, Macklin, Quillin, Sturm and Geale have turned down fights with Golvokin. Murray is going to to Argentina to fight Martinez. I have heard rumors that Pirog is partially retired or is retiring. I'm not sure it would be smart for his first fight after such a long lay off to be GGG, if he isn't retired. We KNOW Junior isn't fighting Golovkin. I don't really know who else is out there.

Here's an odd idea - how about Austin Trout? Golovkin allegedly has difficulty with boxers. Trout can box. Golovkin can bang.

[DavilaJones]

I want to see Golovkin vs Pirog. I want to see how either one reacts to what the other brings to the table. Persistent pressure with persistent upper body movement and counters.

Also I do hate to say this because I love Martinez as a champ but regrettably he's old, he's closer to 40 than to 35 and regardless of what Bernard, Marquez, and Vitali have done I don't think its a good idea for boxers to fight over 35 as the effects of all those punches and shot reflexes truly put a lot of stress on the boxers body and health. So with all that said I don't think Martinez will have the legs for 12 rounds against a heavy handed pressure fighter anymore. If this was 4-5 years ago then I would have bet the house on Martinez to win. Now...I'm not too sure.

[Peter Som]

I haven't read through the comments yet, so forgive me if I make redundant statements.

GGG right now is a giant hype machine. It's not just that he's torch bearing for his division, he's torch bearing for the entire sport of boxing. I can only look at this to be a good thing.

On a similar note, there are so many names in the divisions he is prospecting in. Why is he fighting Rosado? Sure, he can bang, that's his main selling point, but he's gettin' with too many shots that he doesn't have to take. Personally, I would like to see GGG get put in the ring with someone who will be a legitimate test of his all around boxing skills.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

I want to see Golovkin vs Pirog.

One of THE fights i want too!

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

I have heard rumors that Pirog is partially retired or is retiring.

He's not semi retired. He is planning a return fight this march i think. I doubt it wil be against GGG though who is fighting in march also. Pirog would be too rusty..

Gennady Golovkin - sparring stories:

"I was able to stave off my usual altitude sickness during the drive up to the remote San Bernardino mountain town with thoughts of all the hype I’ve heard on Golovkin in recent months. It began with a text message from Sam Garcia late last June.

“Perro is getting lit up in sparring by this Russian dude!” read the text message from Garcia, an assistant trainer for junior lightweight prospect Eloy Perez, who frequently trains in Big Bear.

“Perro,” of course, is Alfredo Angulo, the rugged junior middleweight contender who was preparing for his HBO-televised fight against Joachim Alcine last July when he locked horns with Golovkin at Sanchez‘s gym. Garcia later gave me a more-detailed account of the sparring session. Lightweight contender Urbano Antillon, who is trained by Sanchez, supported Garcia's story"

A few months later I got a phone call from the producer of a Spanish-language sports show, who swore that he witnessed Golovkin "embarrass" Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. at the Wild Card gym during an open workout held for the Latino media a few weeks before the unbeaten middleweight pulled out of scheduled Dec. 4 card.

A Wild Card regular who spotted me at the Alvarez-Hatton fight in Anaheim, Calif., this past March whispered that he saw Golovkin give undefeated super middleweight prospect Peter Quillin all he could handle at Roach’s famous boxing club.

“Alfredo Angulo is a very strong, very competitive, prideful guy who has a great team behind him, but Golovkin is on another level,” said Garcia, who says he watched three sparring sessions between the two over the course of one week. “His strength, his demeanor, his skill, everything he did in there was just too much for Angulo, which surprised the hell out of me.
“I’ve seen Angulo spar many times before and he‘s always the one doing the hurting. He’s so damn tough I’ve never seen him take a step back, let alone get hurt. I was expecting him to test this Golovkin guy that I’d never seen before, but ‘Superman’ was in there taking and giving, and he hurt Angulo a couple times, especially to the body. Angulo had to get on his bike against Golovkin, which was just bizarre to see.”

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/1...untain-to-see-

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

His sparring with Alvarez:

Round one:

Alvarez began the session sticking and moving effectively. The young redhead was on his toes when he maneuvered around the casually advancing Golovkin, but he planted his feet every time he let his hands go, including his stiff jab. However, Golovkin picked off most of Alvarez’s shots with his gloves as he quickly cut the ring off, occasionally switching stances as he stepped forward. The 2004 Olympian slipped a beautiful left uppercut through Alvarez’s guard to score the first significant punch midway through the round. Alvarez loaded up with a retaliatory hook that missed and spun him halfway around. Golovkin didn’t jab much, but he landed it whenever he let it go. Alvarez began to look for ways to counter his antagonist in the final minute and scored with a sweet right cross followed by hook that shook Golovkin down to his shoes. The Kazakh just smiled at him, though. Unfazed, Alvarez stood his ground in the final 30 seconds and took a few hard body shots.

Round two:

Golovkin stalked a little faster while displaying decent head movement and a nice straight, crisp jab. Alvarez definitely felt the pressure as he gave ground without allowing his back to touch the ropes. He used fluid upper-body movement to evade Golovkin’s short power shots, which prompted co-trainer Jose Reynoso to yell “Bein, bein, muy bien!” from the corner. Alvarez landed a picture perfect head-to-body hook combination mid-round. Golovkin fired back but the kid leaned away from the punches. Alvarez tried to counter Golovkin but couldn’t get through the older fighter’s guard. Still, the young man’s accuracy back Golovkin off for the first time during the session. Alvarez followed Golovkin during the final minute but walked into a hard left hook that appeared to rock him with 10 seconds remaining. Alvarez didn’t return to his corner after the bell but instead tried to shake out his right leg, which immediately stiffened on impact of Golovkin‘s hook.

Rounds three and four:

Alvarez abandoned his jab and his upper-body movement and took the fight to Golovkin with both hands. Golovkin welcomed the aggression, easily blocking Alvarez’s punches while landing most of his. Alvarez sucked it up and even walked forward while attempting to block as much heat as he could, but it was clear that he could not match Golovkin’s strength or power. Still, the budding young star got in an occasional power punch whenever he let his hands go in bunches. His hook-right combination found the mark but his technique was not as tight as it was at the start of the session and his face was turning beet red from Golovkin‘s punches. The kid showed guts but he didn’t merit a single “bien” from Reynoso in the third round. He didn’t hear it until two and half minutes into the fourth round when he let loose with a blazing five-punch combination. Golovkin dodged or parried most of the shots but Alvarez earned his respect for the round.

Round five:

A tired-looking Alvarez resumed his jab and lateral movement to buy himself a breather. His jab was especially effective when he shot-gunned it. Golovkin neglected his jab and looked to counter Alvarez’s left stick with single power punches (the hook in particular). Alvarez did more moving along the ring perimeter (his back now grazing the ropes) than punching, but he got off hard shots when he did let his hands go.

Round six:

Alvarez caught his second wind in the final round, bouncing on his toes with quick one-two combinations. “Muy bien!” Reynoso yelled after Alvarez landed a right uppercut-right cross combination off the ropes. Golovkin grinned again and attacked Alvarez’s body as the kid tried to spin away. The both loaded up with single power punches during the final minute of the round.

[Rantcatrat]

[QUOTE=THE PHILOSOPHER;1127893]

I have heard rumors that Pirog is partially retired or is retiring.

He's not semi retired. He is planning a return fight this march i think. I doubt it wil be against GGG though who is fighting in march also. Pirog would be too rusty..

Are you sure? I read that he had a business in Russia and he was planning on retiring to work at it full-time.

In any event, he won't fight GGG until end of the year at the earliest. Quillin has to defend his title against Rubio, assuming he beats Guerrero. I bet Junior will face Macklin as a warm-up for Martinez. Martinez fights Murray in April and then Junior again in the fall (although I don't really see the point in that fight). Geale fights Mundine, assuming be beats Mundine, he'll face Sturm again, but this time in Australia. Thus, who is left? Barker? I just doubt Hearn puts Barker in against Golovkin. If Barker is going to get a big fight, he'll aim for Quillin, Geale or Junior. I really don't know who is left, unless Golovkin faces Trout or another big name at 154.

[Fenster]

What fight were you watching because I seen GR land a few jabs and get battered the rest of the time against a fighter who was ill prior to the bout. He wasn't even 100%.

Proksa and Rosado would have given any of the top 160-pounders a challenge regardless of how highly u rate them! Golovkin beat down two experienced, in-their-prime, well-schooled fighters — fighters who came in to win, didn’t give up, but were beat up, bloodied, and stopped. Give the guy his dues...

Golovkin was lined up for Geale, but Geale went elsewhere (i.e. Mundine).

Golovkin was signed to fight Pirog, but Pirog pulled out with injury.

Golovkin called out Sturm for two years, and Sturm continually went elsewhere (up until Geale beat his ass).

And rumours are around the net that Quillin was soundly beaten up by Golovkin in the gym (the rumour is that Golovkin actually KO’ed him, which is VERY rare for sparring, but reports consistently state that Golovkin spars hard)… and in an interview with Quillin on ESB he didn’t deny it… he just vaguely sidestepped the question.

Yes he needs to fight better competition, but it’s THE COMPETITION that is avoiding him, not the other way around. Does anyone really think Geale would beat a 100% GGG? 2013 is GGG's year.

Can't wait to see Pirog back too.

Rosado had 5 losses, had never fought for a "world" title and never fought at middleweight.

Proksa had lost to powderpuff puncher Kerry Hope, had never fought for a "world" title and Darren Barker, a man that proved himself world-class with his effort against THE real middleweight champion, then slaughtered Hope in 4 rounds making the Proksa form look rubbish.

Even if everyone is "ducking" Golovkin, until he actually beats proven world-class fighters, he is nothing more than potential. That's it.

(a fighter signed to HBO has the backing to get top 10 fighters in the ring. Fact.)

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Rosado had 5 losses, had never fought for a "world" title and never fought at middleweight.

So? Rosado actually looked the bigger man anyway. Fair play he was game but ultimately put in his place by a less than 100% GGG. I'm not really over-hyping the win it was just another stepping stone IMO. Note also that Rosado barely won a round as evidenced by the judges scores! Don't be so harsh on someone who was clearly operating below par anyway. He got the job done.

Proksa had lost to powderpuff puncher Kerry Hope, had never fought for a "world" title and Darren Barker, a man that proved himself world-class with his effort against THE real middleweight champion, then slaughtered Hope in 4 rounds making the Proksa form look rubbish.

Proksa was a stand in for undefeated Pirog who is easily a top 10 MW having dominated undefeated american prospect Jacobs and world class Ishida. U can't criticise a man for fighting a stand in (and a solid one at that!)...

Proksa debateably lost to Hope IMO. Hope won a close MD. They fought for a second time and Proksa stopped him! Proska also dominated Sylvester who pushed both Geale and Karmazin to to a SD! So he's not that bad is he? (Karmazin beat Echols. Tatevosyan. Ouma. Keith Holmes etc and only lost to Cory spinks by a close MD. )

Do u think Barker beat's Golovkin? Pirog if he get's fit beats Barker too IMO. Martinez may be the man now but he won't be in 2 years time and i doubt he will give GGG a shot any time soon. He is content to fight good but not great British MW's (a division that is neglected in britain due to the prominence of our SMW's like Calzaghe, Froch and Groves!) Im a Martinez fan anyway......

Even if everyone is "ducking" Golovkin, until he actually beats proven world-class fighters, he is nothing more than potential. That's it.

I know a good fighter when i see one. He more than backed it up in the AMS and will do so and is doing so as a pro too. All in good time....

[Fenster]

Rosado had 5 losses, had never fought for a "world" title and never fought at middleweight.

So? Rosado actually looked the bigger man anyway. Fair play he was game but ultimately put in his place by a less than 100% GGG. I'm not really over-hyping the win it was just another stepping stone IMO. Note also that Rosado barely won a round as evidenced by the judges scores! Don't be so harsh on someone who was clearly operating below par anyway. He got the job done.

Proksa had lost to powderpuff puncher Kerry Hope, had never fought for a "world" title and Darren Barker, a man that proved himself world-class with his effort against THE real middleweight champion, then slaughtered Hope in 4 rounds making the Proksa form look rubbish.

Proksa was a stand in for undefeated Pirog who is easily a top 10 MW having dominated undefeated american prospect Jacobs and world class Ishida. U can't criticise a man for fighting a stand in (and a solid one at that!)...

Proksa debateably lost to Hope IMO. Hope won a close MD. They fought for a second time and Proksa stopped him! Proska also dominated Sylvester who pushed both Geale and Karmazin to to a SD! So he's not that bad is he? (Karmazin beat Echols. Tatevosyan. Ouma. Keith Holmes etc and only lost to Cory spinks by a close MD. )

Do u think Barker beat's Golovkin? Pirog if he get's fit beats Barker too IMO. Martinez may be the man now but he won't be in 2 years time and i doubt he will give GGG a shot any time soon. He is content to fight good but not great British MW's (a division that is neglected in britain due to the prominence of our SMW's like Calzaghe, Froch and Groves!) Im a Martinez fan anyway......

Even if everyone is "ducking" Golovkin, until he actually beats proven world-class fighters, he is nothing more than potential. That's it.

I know a good fighter when i see one. He more than backed it up in the AMS and will do so and is doing so as a pro too. All in good time....

1. All you Golovkin fans "know a good fighter when they see one?" Nobody is disagreeing with that. However, he is not "super fighter" until he steps up in class and proves it. Some of us prefer actual evidence. His current record is not a patch on Martinez.

2. I think he would beat Barker.