He will always have a void .. like he could have accomplished much more. Sucks
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He will always have a void .. like he could have accomplished much more. Sucks
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He has had enough,Pavlik is not the same fighter he was and never will be.
I just hope he does not make a comeback in a year or two.Thats if we can
recognise him ,he will be covered head to toe in tats.
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Ta Ta for now see you in the next year or 2. Maybe he will be on an undercard of an Evander Holyfield or David Haye card.
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thing is, realistically he wasn't gonna ever really reach the level he once was at, so the void would always be there, now by calling it quits at least he's leaving without taking anymore physical punishment caused in the ring, I wish him luck and hope he has a good lifeOriginally Posted by outspoken
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The MW Gerry Cooney.
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Was Pavlik an over achiever or under achiever?
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
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Under achiever.
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Thats what I think but read in boxing new mag that someone thought he overachieved considering he was knocked down by Miranda and Taylor but got up to win.Under achiever.
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Over achiever before Hopkins, an under achiever after.
This is just my opinion, I've never read anything along this line, but I think he lost faith in his trainer and himself after Hopkins.
I'm not saying he would have beaten Martinez if he hadn't fought Hopkins first. I'm saying the Hopkins fight should never have happened, it was a capital error.
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Agree. What I will say is that had it not been for his personal problems, be they caused by the Hopkins pasting or not, I reckon Pavlik would still be middleweight champion today. For that reason alone I believe he underachieved.Over achiever before Hopkins, an under achiever after.
This is just my opinion, I've never read anything along this line, but I think he lost faith in his trainer and himself after Hopkins.
I'm not saying he would have beaten Martinez if he hadn't fought Hopkins first. I'm saying the Hopkins fight should never have happened, it was a capital error.
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True, at least now he leaves with his only losses being to two legit P4P fighters in Hopkins and Martinez. Not some bums or somewhat above average fighter who beat him because he wasn't the same fighter. I can respect that.thing is, realistically he wasn't gonna ever really reach the level he once was at, so the void would always be there, now by calling it quits at least he's leaving without taking anymore physical punishment caused in the ring, I wish him luck and hope he has a good life
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