Nah his win over Ali is one of the best ever and was one hell of a fight. That was probably the most physically strong version of Ali that we've seen and he even dropped him with that legendary left hook. Ali got away with a ton of holding in the second fight and should've been deducted a point or two or warned at the very least. Third fight was the most brutal of them all and both men fought to the point of collapse ... he gets massive credit from me for that performance even though he lost.
He also has quality wins over Bonavena (twice), Quarry (twice), Ellis, Foster etc.
Foreman was just a bad matchup and Frazier showed a ton of heart. I don't think anyone of Fraziers style could ever beat that version of Foreman ... who got away with a ton of pushing and shoving.
No shame in that. Jack Johnson is someone who I'm really not that impressed with and he wouldn't make my top 10.
I'm not a fan of Holyfield and I'm very critical of his "accidental" headbutts and tactics for the Tyson bouts. But his body of work and longevity cannot be denied. He's fought everyone and has been around forever. He's on the edge of the top 10 for me. Don't know where to rank K2 ... if Wlad becomes undisputed and dominates for another 2-3 years then I'd have to move him up to near the top 10. The length of his reign cannot be denied, despite his competition. He's been the best and beaten the best since 05/06 and has like 14 straight title defenses. Yeah he's fighting hepatitis patients, cruisers, geriatrics, hype jobs but these are the guys available. Yeah losses are especially hilarious and embarrassing, his chin is probably the worst I've ever seen from a dominant heavyweight champion, and H2H he'd get clowned a lot but guys like Norton, Tunney, Schmeling etc. don't have the same kind of reign he has had.
Ken Norton, despite what he's done and how he's viewed, has never won a title. Tunney was champion for 2 fights and we all know about the controversial Dempsey fights. Schmeling was champion for like 1 fight ... he did beat Joe Louis, which is a hell of a win especially considering Louis was in his prime and Schmeling was older but I can't but him ahead of Wlad.


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