No way my friend. Liston does not belong in the top 25, he had no heart, and was sloth like. Frazier was a runt with a lot of heart, but not enough to get him into the top ten. Holyfield is 11 or 12, in my opinion.
Marciano is there--and well deserved--because of his indefeated status. I have no idea why Dempsey is in the top ten, top twenty yes. Johnson is there because he was--also richly deserved--a black pioneer, and master boxer-puncher.
Take Dempsey out of the top ten.
Insert W. Klitschko, now we are looking better, and have two spots to fill.
Last edited by beenKOed; 01-25-2013 at 04:57 PM.
Jeez I don't know about that. Maybe not top 10, but not top 25? Liston was a beast, before Ali they thought he would be champ until he decided to retire (and maybe he would have if it wasn't for Ali). He really only lost to Ali, a SD early on and a brutal KO when he was damn near 40. Liston would smash over half of that top 10 list IMHO.
I think the whole "no heart" and "bully" thing is overblown because it sounds good... he faced adversity in his career and came back and won. Cleveland Williams shattered his nose and rocked him in their first fight and he fought back and brutally TKO'd him.
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