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    One thing I have noticed over the years is that boxing fans have the shortest memories in sport. Not only short memories but also selective. Many tend to remember what a guy looked like on his worst day or the months of decline before he left.
    I hope that's not aimed at me, I give Tyson full credit as being THE GREATEST puncher in HW history. And I acknowledge that he wasn't just a puncher, he has superior technique, head movement and defenstive skills to go along with the two nuclear bombs on the ends of his arms.

    But the Klitschkos have never gotten the proper respect they deserve for the talent they have. And people are still stuck on Wladimir getting run over by Corrie Sanders 10 years back. Under the guidance of Manny Steward, Wladimir improved leaps and bounds since then. While his chin is still a question mark, I don't see any evidence that would suggest he would cower from Tyson or "beat himself" like Michael Spinks did.

    When it comes to Tyson, people only remember the KO clips. They forget that just like every other boxer, he had his faults, flaws, and he was given trouble by a more than one opponent. And like I pointed out, his best performances WERE NOT against tall guys with big reach and boxing skill.

    Remember that for 10 years, guys have seen the Corrie/Wlad fight as well as the first Brewster fight. If he had an awful chin, people know about it. Yet no one has been able to do it since. And it's not like the guys he fought weren't capable. David Haye is as powerful and explosive a puncher as we've seen in the HW divison for a long time. Wlad has very few holes in his game and leaves very little oppotunity for opponents. To believe that Tyson would just go in there and bomb him out, no sweat, is just unrealistic to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    One thing I have noticed over the years is that boxing fans have the shortest memories in sport. Not only short memories but also selective. Many tend to remember what a guy looked like on his worst day or the months of decline before he left.
    I hope that's not aimed at me,
    No it was not. Simply a general statement of fact.

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    Well Tyson was great but he did fight a lot of cans some of which is did not crush right away. I mean when your best win is Spinks who did not fight any one worth a shit after winning the title. Then Holmes who was out of prime and had not fought for 2 years was coming off some loses as well. Tyson was great but when he stepped up the completion he was facing he lost bad and one of them who was Holyfeild was older and had hart problems. People make excuse more for Tyson then any other fighter more then Ali even i just dont get it.
    Last edited by Mr140; 01-28-2013 at 09:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    No it was not. Simply a general statement of fact.
    Okie doke. I agree.

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    Default Re: Prime Mike Tyson in this era

    If u want a legend using leg shots try Andy Hug not Pele Reid:



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    Default Re: Prime Mike Tyson in this era

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    One thing I have noticed over the years is that boxing fans have the shortest memories in sport. Not only short memories but also selective. Many tend to remember what a guy looked like on his worst day or the months of decline before he left.
    I hope that's not aimed at me, I give Tyson full credit as being THE GREATEST puncher in HW history. And I acknowledge that he wasn't just a puncher, he has superior technique, head movement and defenstive skills to go along with the two nuclear bombs on the ends of his arms.

    But the Klitschkos have never gotten the proper respect they deserve for the talent they have. And people are still stuck on Wladimir getting run over by Corrie Sanders 10 years back. Under the guidance of Manny Steward, Wladimir improved leaps and bounds since then. While his chin is still a question mark, I don't see any evidence that would suggest he would cower from Tyson or "beat himself" like Michael Spinks did.

    When it comes to Tyson, people only remember the KO clips. They forget that just like every other boxer, he had his faults, flaws, and he was given trouble by a more than one opponent. And like I pointed out, his best performances WERE NOT against tall guys with big reach and boxing skill.

    Remember that for 10 years, guys have seen the Corrie/Wlad fight as well as the first Brewster fight. If he had an awful chin, people know about it. Yet no one has been able to do it since. And it's not like the guys he fought weren't capable. David Haye is as powerful and explosive a puncher as we've seen in the HW divison for a long time. Wlad has very few holes in his game and leaves very little oppotunity for opponents. To believe that Tyson would just go in there and bomb him out, no sweat, is just unrealistic to me.
    Granted David Haye doesnt have the chin or the cojohnes to pull off that tactic. At least tyson would give it an honest go.

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