Prime Mike Tyson in this era

[Mr140]

Also it still does not change what i said before hand about Holmes being his best win. Because i pretty sure that Spinks, Thomas and Rudduck i am pretty sure are not better wins then Holmes was.

[IamInuit]

Also it still does not change what i said before hand about Holmes being his best win. Because i pretty sure that Spinks, Thomas and Rudduck i am pretty sure are not better wins then Holmes was.

Spinks is one of the greatest light-heavyweights in history and the Spinks Tyson starched beat a better version of Holmes twice then the Holmes that Tyson fought.

Razor was ducked by many including Tyson who fought Douglas instead. To Tysons credit he did fight Razor after that, got the quick stop by Steele imo and then rematched and won a convincing points win. That Razor would have kicked the shit out of the Holmes Tyson fought or Wlad.

Point is you cant just use resumes/records. Many greats we have no tape of, Greb, Robinson(147), Wilde, Langford etc but Tyson was witnessed. I mean tell me one fighter of note that Holmes fought at their prime? Tyson is the only answer. Tyson walked through a division in about two years. I hated him. Spent money on ppv's wanting to see him get knocked out.

[Mr140]

Sorry but Rudduck could not even win a belt and lost his few attempts that he tried and clearly lost.Say what you want about now its not great but it was only a bit worse compared to that era, both suck compared to 1970s and the 1990's. I am not even a fan of Wlad but that man gets shit on more then any champ i have seen. When people say that Jack Demesey who would not even fight black fighters and was champ in early 1900s would beat Wlad i feel like its a joke or something. As for spinks your right great lhw but at Heavyweight he got gifts over a 36 year old Holmes.

[TysonBomb]

Sorry but Rudduck could not even win a belt and lost his few attempts that he tried and clearly lost.Say what you want about now its not great but it was only a bit worse compared to that era, both suck compared to 1970s and the 1990's. I am not even a fan of Wlad but that man gets shit on more then any champ i have seen. When people say that Jack Demesey who would not even fight black fighters and was champ in early 1900s would beat Wlad i feel like its a joke or something. As for spinks your right great lhw but at Heavyweight he got gifts over a 36 year old Holmes.

Ken Norton never won a belt either, so why is he an ATG again? Belts don't mean anything.

Ruddock was being DUCKED which is why he never got a title shot until after the Tyson fights when he was clearly done at competing at an elite level. Tyson ruined this mans shot.

And Tyson fought Ruddock twice in '91, so clearly you don't even know what decade you are in with your point about the 90s and 70s. Dempsey was a far superior champion to Wlad who is a joke fighting in an era of fat, unathletic, slow heavyweights with trash conditioning and skill. He would get smoked by Ruddock who would leave a trail of broken glass all over the canvas and the arena they would be fighting in.

Never seen anyone get hurt by any single clean shot they get hit with like Waldo ... never seen anyone that concerned about protecting the chin like him either. He's pure Ukranian GLASS.

[Master]

Sorry but Rudduck could not even win a belt and lost his few attempts that he tried and clearly lost.Say what you want about now its not great but it was only a bit worse compared to that era, both suck compared to 1970s and the 1990's. I am not even a fan of Wlad but that man gets shit on more then any champ i have seen. When people say that Jack Demesey who would not even fight black fighters and was champ in early 1900s would beat Wlad i feel like its a joke or something. As for spinks your right great lhw but at Heavyweight he got gifts over a 36 year old Holmes.

Ken Norton never won a belt either, so why is he an ATG again? Belts don't mean anything.

Ruddock was being DUCKED which is why he never got a title shot until after the Tyson fights when he was clearly done at competing at an elite level. Tyson ruined this mans shot.

And Tyson fought Ruddock in '92, so clearly you don't even know what decade you are in with your point about the 90s and 70s. Dempsey was a far superior champion to Wlad who is a joke fighting in an era of fat, unathletic, slow heavyweights with trash conditioning and skill. He would get smoked by Ruddock who would leave a trail of broken glass all over the canvas and the arena they would be fighting in.

Never seen anyone get hurt by any single clean shot they get hit with like Waldo ... never seen anyone that concerned about protecting the chin like him either. He's pure Ukranian GLASS.

Just because Rudduck could not win a belt does not make him rubbish. Tyson effectively ruined him and he was never the same fighter again. The same could be said of Tucker and Briggs.

[Mr140]

Rudduck lost to all the top guys that were in the 1990's so i dont really included him. He got iced by by Lennox and Tommy, why dont you tell me what big win he had make him historic like nortan as well.

[Master]

Rudduck lost to all the top guys that were in the 1990's so i dont really included him. He got iced by by Lennox and Tommy, why dont you tell me what big win he had make him historic like nortan as well.

Rudduck was ruined by Tyson admittedly he was not great but at the time he was very much feared because of his punching power. As Spicoli said he was a one handed fighter and that hand was not used on the jab either. He smashed most people that got in front of him.