Prime Mike Tyson in this era

[Mr140]

Well Tyson crushing cans few ok fighters and atg who was past his beast does not mean he could beat a elite fighter. I mean he lost to Douglas for fuck sake Wlad lost to people who he should not have either. I mean Wlad may not have fought great fighters so its kinda of a unknown. Tyson Has fought greats like Holyfeild and Lewis but those fighters crushed him. I never seen fighter ranked so high on some people list with out the resume to back it up. Ali, Foreman, Lewis and Holyfeild beat great fighters and were competitive for a long time thats what made them great.

[TysonBomb]

Well Tyson crushing cans few ok fighters and atg who was past his beast does not mean he could beat a elite fighter. I mean he lost to Douglas for fuck sake Wlad lost to people who he should not have either. I mean Wlad may not have fought great fighters so its kinda of a unknown. Tyson Has fought greats like Holyfeild and Lewis but those fighters crushed him. I never seen fighter ranked so high on some people list with out the resume to back it up. Ali, Foreman, Lewis and Holyfeild beat great fighters and were competitive for a long time thats what made them great.

Ali is "great" because he beat Frazier who was "great" because he beat Ali.

This BS about fighting "great" fighters is overstated. Who the hell did Holmes beat to be considered "great"? Why is Holyfield "great"? Because he has a 26-10 record as a heavyweight? A JOURNEYMAN record?? If his best win is against Tyson, who is a bum, then why is he great?

Post prison Tyson "losing" to Holyfield and to Lewis when he was a walking zombie doesn't mean anything. Tyson beat Michael Spinks, the greatest LHW ever ... he also beat Holmes, who is supposed to be "great" according to you.

Yeah I will concede that he didn't fight in a particular special era but he beat everyone there and made a resurgence after he lost. You can't blame Tyson for things he didn't have control over. Holmes ruled over an even weaker division yet he doesn't get this kind of criticism. Holmes couldn't even become undisputed heavyweight champion in the piss poor era he fought in and made a career out of crushing CANS and a sick, Parkinson's riddled Ali. The first elite fighter he fought, in Mike Tyson, he got KTFO. His biggest win to that point was an old Ken Norton or Gerry Cooney.

If Tyson fought nothing but bums then why does Lewis have those same names on his resume? He fought even weaker versions of those bums. Holyfield couldn't even win his series with John Ruiz and lost 2 out of 3 to Riddick Bowe.

Let us put things in perspective here ... Tyson wasn't being cracked by every punch that landed on his jaw nor was he petrified of anything going near his chin like Wlad.

[Mr140]

Thing is Tyson lost to Douglas at a young age on top of the world he was a fucking 40 to 1 to win it. When has a great lost that bad to a fucking journeyman in his prime. Holyfeild was fucking 40 when he lost to Ruiz so if you want to count those loses look at what Tyson did at the end of his career. Bowie is a better win then anything Tyson has on his resume and that was Holyfeild fighting with a 40 pound weight difference. I would say Bowie, Tyson, Forman, Holmes and Moore are Holyfeilds best wins at the hw division and Tysons is Holmes and Spinks big fucking whoop. So all that time at Heavyweight and his resume ain't even Half of what Holyfeilds was so yea i rank Holyfeild higher in the hw list on being able to avenge a lose and also being able to win against top fighters of his time.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

He would probably be incarcerated for half of it, come out and avoid every top HW until his coke habit and taxes needed funding, get schooled by K2 and then take a supposedly easier brit (Chisora) and get cained again!

[Master]

Well Tyson crushing cans few ok fighters and atg who was past his beast does not mean he could beat a elite fighter. I mean he lost to Douglas for fuck sake Wlad lost to people who he should not have either. I mean Wlad may not have fought great fighters so its kinda of a unknown. Tyson Has fought greats like Holyfeild and Lewis but those fighters crushed him. I never seen fighter ranked so high on some people list with out the resume to back it up. Ali, Foreman, Lewis and Holyfeild beat great fighters and were competitive for a long time thats what made them great.

Ali is "great" because he beat Frazier who was "great" because he beat Ali.

This BS about fighting "great" fighters is overstated. Who the hell did Holmes beat to be considered "great"? Why is Holyfield "great"? Because he has a 26-10 record as a heavyweight? A JOURNEYMAN record?? If his best win is against Tyson, who is a bum, then why is he great?

Post prison Tyson "losing" to Holyfield and to Lewis when he was a walking zombie doesn't mean anything. Tyson beat Michael Spinks, the greatest LHW ever ... he also beat Holmes, who is supposed to be "great" according to you.

Yeah I will concede that he didn't fight in a particular special era but he beat everyone there and made a resurgence after he lost. You can't blame Tyson for things he didn't have control over. Holmes ruled over an even weaker division yet he doesn't get this kind of criticism. Holmes couldn't even become undisputed heavyweight champion in the piss poor era he fought in and made a career out of crushing CANS and a sick, Parkinson's riddled Ali. The first elite fighter he fought, in Mike Tyson, he got KTFO. His biggest win to that point was an old Ken Norton or Gerry Cooney.

If Tyson fought nothing but bums then why does Lewis have those same names on his resume? He fought even weaker versions of those bums. Holyfield couldn't even win his series with John Ruiz and lost 2 out of 3 to Riddick Bowe.

Let us put things in perspective here ... Tyson wasn't being cracked by every punch that landed on his jaw nor was he petrified of anything going near his chin like Wlad.

Holmes was great because he had longevity and many defences of the title. Holmes had a great chin and got up from being hit by some of the biggest hitters in history. Holmes had the best jab ever. The only reason Holmes did not unify was because King held the other titles. Lets not downgrade Holmes just to defend Tyson. Holmes gave Holyfield a run for his money and beat an undefeated Mercer when he was very old.

[roberto duran legend]

Tyson had a 3 year prime and done nothing after,apart from taking a few beatings,
He is also a pretty shit human being

[Master]

Tyson had a 3 year prime and done nothing after,apart from taking a few beatings,
He is also a pretty shit human being

True but those 3 years were amazing and he has turned out to be an ok guy.

[El Kabong]

Tyson had a 3 year prime and done nothing after,apart from taking a few beatings,
He is also a pretty shit human being

True but those 3 years were amazing and he has turned out to be an ok guy.

The only person I can think of that had a shorter prime is Riddick Bowe, maybe Floyd Patterson

[Master]

Tyson had a 3 year prime and done nothing after,apart from taking a few beatings,
He is also a pretty shit human being

True but those 3 years were amazing and he has turned out to be an ok guy.

The only person I can think of that had a shorter prime is Riddick Bowe, maybe Floyd Patterson

You can stretch you prime with very selective fights to last many years such as Dempsey did.