Chuck Wepner's knockdown of Muhammad Ali 1975

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

How many times?! - Shane Mosely never failed a test, Holyfield didn't either. Pro or Amature.

Mosley admitted to taking them. It's pretty much consensus that Holyfield was a doper (Failed or not).

OJ simpson is innocent.

Vitali HAS, no matter which way you spin it...

Yes he has but not as a professional, he freely admitted it in his Bio which is not the actions of an abuser!

Prescribed by a quack for an injury in another sport 20 years ago which had an adverse affect on his amateur career in boxing. If he was an abuser he would be stripped of his titles and not allowed to compete. Testing is far more advanced now and he has never failed. So he is clean, if u have evidence otherwise please provide it? K2 are strict advocates of testing.

Yeah... I think when it comes down to speculating over if a fighter is clean - some annecdotal story has much more credibility to it than a failed drug test in a fighter's history does.

I did not state Tyson was on them Holyfield did. If anyone was a candidate for roid rage though it was Tyson. The 80'S were rife with it.

Also, if you're going to get on your high horse over another posters grammar then you should probably stop saying 'u' all the time like some 'txtspkn' tweenage girl?

U know what? I rather appreciate the concern. U missed an apostrophe though.

When you have to quibble over whether a mistake was a typo or a Freudian slip then it just shows us hiw weak your argument is...

Desperate for points much?

My quibble with him was he compared VK to Savarese! And he also labelled WK an abuser too! I think my argument that those 2 statements are quite absurd is pretty solid! Do u not agree? I was just emphasising what an eejit he really is! Try reading the entire argument next time...

I seem to just open my mouth and upset people without realising it, apparantly :-) LOL.