Why is crime so high in England?

[Beanz]

Stats are pliable but I've seen reports where the UK's violent crime per capita exceeds ours.

"...the Home Office dismissed the statistics as "absolute nonsense", saying that the average American is seven times more likely to be murdered than their British counterpart and 60 times more likely to be shot"

BBC News | UK | UK crime worse, says US report.

NationMaster - Crime stats: United Kingdom vs United States

You could draw a lot of different conclusions from that link. Like I said..."Pliable". Lets be honest though, what did you expect the Home Office to say? "Yeah we got a real shit hole over here." Worse, better, the same; regardless, the UK does seem to have a problem with violent crime worse better and the same as places in the US.

With respect, you know not, that of which you speak. It would be very convenient and helpful for you and your pro gun owning agenda if what you said was true, but it isn't. Our Police force does not want to be armed, our civilians do not want to be armed.

[VictorCharlie]

Stats are pliable but I've seen reports where the UK's violent crime per capita exceeds ours.

"...the Home Office dismissed the statistics as "absolute nonsense", saying that the average American is seven times more likely to be murdered than their British counterpart and 60 times more likely to be shot"


BBC News | UK | UK crime worse, says US report.

NationMaster - Crime stats: United Kingdom vs United States

You could draw a lot of different conclusions from that link. Like I said..."Pliable". Lets be honest though, what did you expect the Home Office to say? "Yeah we got a real shit hole over here." Worse, better, the same; regardless, the UK does seem to have a problem with violent crime worse better and the same as places in the US.

With respect, you know not, that of which you speak. It would be very convenient and helpful for you and your pro gun owning agenda if what you said was true, but it isn't. Our Police force does not want to be armed, our civilians do not want to be armed.

I don't claim to know a lot about the UK nor do I care about firearm ownership in the UK but the link I posted seems pretty clear. I'm not trying to promote any agenda in this thread but it seems one is more likely to be a homicide victim in the US, much more likely to be shot in the US but more than twice as likely to be a victim of a violent crime in the UK. I have no idea how "Nation Master" collects their data but at face value it pretty much supports my previous posts.