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    Default Re: Why is crime so high in England?

    Violent Crime has been declining in the UK since the mid 90's.

    The US Murder rate is 4 times higher than the UK's.

    The US definition of Violent Crime = Murder and Non Negligent Manslaughter, Forcible Rape , Robbery and aggravated assault.

    The UK Home Office definition of Violent Crime is ALL crimes against the person. ALL robberies, assaults and sexual offences.

    I apologise if I came across as rude but UK crime statistics are significantly lower than people would have you believe. The opposition party will use the same statistics to prove the inadequacy of the Government in power, when it comes to law and order, that they will then present differently to prove how efficient they are when they are in Government. International Politics is no different.

    Dia is right in pointing out how the few can tar the image of many. Knife crime is definitely more prevalent today than in my youth, when using a knife would be seen as cowardly even among the local gangs and hooligans. If you had a rumble in the past even between different crews, guns were virtually unheard of and blades were for the odd nutter, not widespread like today.
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    Default Re: Why is crime so high in England?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Violent Crime has been declining in the UK since the mid 90's.

    The US Murder rate is 4 times higher than the UK's.

    The US definition of Violent Crime = Murder and Non Negligent Manslaughter, Forcible Rape , Robbery and aggravated assault.

    The UK Home Office definition of Violent Crime is ALL crimes against the person. ALL robberies, assaults and sexual offences.

    I apologise if I came across as rude but UK crime statistics are significantly lower than people would have you believe. The opposition party will use the same statistics to prove the inadequacy of the Government in power, when it comes to law and order, that they will then present differently to prove how efficient they are when they are in Government. International Politics is no different.

    Dia is right in pointing out how the few can tar the image of many. Knife crime is definitely more prevalent today than in my youth, when using a knife would be seen as cowardly even among the local gangs and hooligans. If you had a rumble in the past even between different crews, guns were virtually unheard of and blades were for the odd nutter, not widespread like today.



    Definition of "violent crime". That is the gold nugget here.
    If there's a difference in definition, any comparison of rates is going to be invalid.

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    Default Re: Why is crime so high in England?

    That link was strange in that it had an "assault victim" category and a "rape victim" category. In fairness I used victim of violent crime and victim of assault interchangeably when discussing the link.
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    Default Re: Why is crime so high in England?

    More population more crime,it's a fact as gun crime goes people have been killed by legal and elegal
    held firearms in this Country. As in the States but more so, mass killings are on the up, over here
    we do try to keep out of wrong hands criminals nut jobs. Gun's are not for ever one, and that's
    the difference between us and the States.
    Your right to bear Arms, criminals don't give a shit about laws if you really want a gun you can get
    one. Remember I have been brought up with firearms, I am not anti gun but Firearms are not for
    any Tom, Dick,or Harry. They are for law-abiding citizens, what we talking about here is violent crimes
    not many involving guns.
    This discussion is really about Crime, not Firearms.

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    Default Re: Why is crime so high in England?

    Tell you a story now about how police are so desperate not to arrest anyone that they drove a violent women home rather than the police station. She came back to the victim 45 minutes later and made more threats a further 3 police men detained her but did not want to arrest her. It was embarrassing seeing them running after her, like a benny hill sketch.
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    Default Re: Why is crime so high in England?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Tell you a story now about how police are so desperate not to arrest anyone that they drove a violent women home rather than the police station. She came back to the victim 45 minutes later and made more threats a further 3 police men detained her but did not want to arrest her. It was embarrassing seeing them running after her, like a benny hill sketch.
    ....so someone got hit in the balls & Yakety Sax was playing?

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