Chuck Wepner's knockdown of Muhammad Ali 1975

[AdamGB]

Are you really missing what I'm saying about Shane Mosely?! Jesus Christ... It's so fucking simple.

I KNOW he admitted to taking PEDs, he didn't fail any tests in this modern era of 'more advanced testing' (as you see it)... Not because he didn't cheat, but because the tests are very lax.

Shane Mosely admits to cheating and still failed zero tests. He is proof positive that your claim that Vitali not failing tests as a pro cannot and does not remove all suspicion that he is 100%

I am outraged at a slur on Tyson? I just told you he was an awful person?! You claimed that steroids gave him roid rage and made him a bad person. I told you he was ALREADY a bad person.

Talk about missing the point, how can anyone expect to discuss things with you when you can't even follow a simple, linear argument?

So in the early 90s in ukraine they treat headaches with 'nettle soup', but a leg injury with anabolic steroids?

Great, I assume they also use sledgehammers to pin paper to pin boards?

A drugs program in the soviet block? :0 Unheard of!

When did I say I didn't buy the Evan Fields fiasco? I said that if you buy Vitali's 'the dr gave me magic pills for my poorly leg' excuse then you have to buy Holyfield's 'dr gave me magic pills for my health problems' excuse. You can't choose only one... Not unless you're a nut hugger. I think both excuse are bullshit... You're apparently happy to believe the one that lets you not think that your hero never knowingly cheated.


You think Tyson is a likely candidate for PED use based on the water tight evidence of 'Evander's friend says so', but you DON'T think Vitali is a likely candidate for PED use based on the undisputable fact that his history shows that he has been willing to use PEDs. That's all this comes down to.

Don't ever claim not to be a biased, nut hugging fanboy please.