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    Haha, I love this "If Haye really wanted to" caveat. He's been offered plenty of fights, and all he wants is the celebrity of being a fighter. David Haye is a pretty boy, he's not a boxer, he's not a fighter, he doesn't have the stomach for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Haha, I love this "If Haye really wanted to" caveat. He's been offered plenty of fights, and all he wants is the celebrity of being a fighter. David Haye is a pretty boy, he's not a boxer, he's not a fighter, he doesn't have the stomach for it.

    He could if he wanted to

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Haha, I love this "If Haye really wanted to" caveat. He's been offered plenty of fights, and all he wants is the celebrity of being a fighter. David Haye is a pretty boy, he's not a boxer, he's not a fighter, he doesn't have the stomach for it.
    I couldn't disagree with you any more.

    As a CW he was focused and was the top in the world.

    Then he won a HW world title.

    He has lost interest, but to say he "doesn't have the stomach for it" is asinine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Haha, I love this "If Haye really wanted to" caveat. He's been offered plenty of fights, and all he wants is the celebrity of being a fighter. David Haye is a pretty boy, he's not a boxer, he's not a fighter, he doesn't have the stomach for it.
    I couldn't disagree with you any more.

    As a CW he was focused and was the top in the world.

    Then he won a HW world title.

    He has lost interest, but to say he "doesn't have the stomach for it" is asinine.
    I don't think it is really, but that's just me. I like Haye enough, he's very athletic and explosive but doesn't really like to fight going by his in ring demeanour and how woefully inactive he has been. A pro for 10 odd years with 20 something fights, that's not someone who is on a mission now is it. The CW division was and is a steaming pile of junk and Haye really only had a few notable fights there, still managing to get badly shaked up more than a few times against far inferior guys physically. The truth is that Wlad is the only fighter who he didn't hold immense advantages over in his career, and he ran scared. I think it's perhaps mostly his just knowing full well he can't be taking decent HW punches, so up for interpretation and all. Certainly the guy isn't fearless though.

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    It would be nice for Haye to get involved in the heavyweight division but he is only interested in the Klit brothers. I believe he could handle Adamek and others but he does not wish to. I believe partly because he is afraid his chin will not hold up and partly because he prefers the famous lifestyle of semi retirement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    It would be nice for Haye to get involved in the heavyweight division but he is only interested in the Klit brothers. I believe he could handle Adamek and others but he does not wish to. I believe partly because he is afraid his chin will not hold up and partly because he prefers the famous lifestyle of semi retirement.

    I pretty much agree with all this.
    So then, how can fans be expected to get behind someone like this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    It would be nice for Haye to get involved in the heavyweight division but he is only interested in the Klit brothers. I believe he could handle Adamek and others but he does not wish to. I believe partly because he is afraid his chin will not hold up and partly because he prefers the famous lifestyle of semi retirement.

    I pretty much agree with all this.
    So then, how can fans be expected to get behind someone like this?
    because he does have talent and shows glimpse of it but not enough for me.
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    I remember the Wlad fight, the one where he ran for 12 rounds and didn't throw a single punch. The fight in which we all realised that he had no bottle or boxing ability at all and he was no better than a celebrity. I particularly remember him having no bottle and cowering in the face of the masterful and immovable Wladimir. I remember just how cautious and meek he was like a little mouse in awe of the giant big scary man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Haha, I love this "If Haye really wanted to" caveat. He's been offered plenty of fights, and all he wants is the celebrity of being a fighter. David Haye is a pretty boy, he's not a boxer, he's not a fighter, he doesn't have the stomach for it.
    He certainly didn't have the stomach for any kind of fight with Wlad, that's for sure. His performance was pathetic.

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    There is a lot of rubbish talked about the Vlad versus Haye fight, mostly from people who weren't there. I was.

    The organisation at the arena was disgraceful, Haye was kept waiting, in the pissing rain, while 10 minute videos of Vlad were shown, everything possible was done to hype him out of the contest, he deserved credit for actually getting into the ring, any normal human being would have told them to poke their pathetic show, credit to David he did not want to let the travelling (as opposed to armchair) fans down.

    It was a difficult fight, on a wet and miserable evening in a shit stadium in a shit part of town with no parking within a mile. Vlad made best use of his assets and won fair and square in the ring, organisation, behaviour and gamesmanship outside the ring were disgraceful, but they don't show or tell that to the armchair warriors.

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    @TitoFan well said the only klitscho attitude really gets on my nerves from haye, and if he doesnt get to fight vitali.... Because as of right now a wlad rematch is not sellable, haye will lose loads of credit and legacy. He will forever be known as the heavyweight who couldnt beat the best, which is a shame because i think hes been very exciting to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuggetdotcom View Post
    There is a lot of rubbish talked about the Vlad versus Haye fight, mostly from people who weren't there. I was.

    The organisation at the arena was disgraceful, Haye was kept waiting, in the pissing rain, while 10 minute videos of Vlad were shown, everything possible was done to hype him out of the contest, he deserved credit for actually getting into the ring, any normal human being would have told them to poke their pathetic show, credit to David he did not want to let the travelling (as opposed to armchair) fans down.

    It was a difficult fight, on a wet and miserable evening in a shit stadium in a shit part of town with no parking within a mile. Vlad made best use of his assets and won fair and square in the ring, organisation, behaviour and gamesmanship outside the ring were disgraceful, but they don't show or tell that to the armchair warriors.
    Haye knew they would do all that before he signed. Hayes performance was poor. He was relying on one big shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuggetdotcom View Post
    There is a lot of rubbish talked about the Vlad versus Haye fight, mostly from people who weren't there. I was.

    The organisation at the arena was disgraceful, Haye was kept waiting, in the pissing rain, while 10 minute videos of Vlad were shown, everything possible was done to hype him out of the contest, he deserved credit for actually getting into the ring, any normal human being would have told them to poke their pathetic show, credit to David he did not want to let the travelling (as opposed to armchair) fans down.

    It was a difficult fight, on a wet and miserable evening in a shit stadium in a shit part of town with no parking within a mile. Vlad made best use of his assets and won fair and square in the ring, organisation, behaviour and gamesmanship outside the ring were disgraceful, but they don't show or tell that to the armchair warriors.
    I love how you don't even refute anything about the way Haye actually fought, even though you saw it live. I didn't realize Haye had to wait 10 minutes and there was no parking around the arena though, that really does add some perspective

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