The Global Warming crowd is at war....with the poor

[VictorCharlie]

The problem with the Keystone pipeline is that it is meant to move oil to ports so that it can be sold abroad; it by passes US refineries.
I quit taking 'global warming' seriously when I read that buying 'carbon credits' was forecast to become a $3trillion industry.

The oil sands move from Alberta to refineries in Illinois & Oklahoma and to the Gulf Coast where it can be sold on the World Market. The United States already buys oil from Canada, we'd more than likely get a better deal for having the pipeline to the ports & refineries, but at the end of the day the oil is Canada's and they can sell it on the World Market if they so choose.

Global warming is a fact guys whether suits play politics with it or not and no where is it more evident then where I live and further north. Having said that I do not see the demand of fossil fuels dying off anytime soon when India and China are bursting at the seams. Got mixed feelings about the pipe line and selling our oil to the open market and helping to fuel those that hate North America. I find myself becoming more and more of an isolationist when thinking about the generations that follow us. Another part of me wishes we would just run out.

Nice try trying to talk some sense into the pro-oil crowd, @IamInuit . But to paraphrase Lyle from another thread, it's like pissing into the wind. You can bury your head in the sand all you want, but global warming is a fact. Would it still be occuring without human intervention? Yes. Are we making it worse to some degree by being irresponsible with the environment? Hell yes. That's all that need be said. The rest is just playing politics, as you said.

I could be wrong but I don't think anyone credible is arguing against global warming. The earth has been warming since the last ice age ended. The question is how much do humans affect the warming and specifically the use of fossil fuels. Doom and gloom science is not something that is new. Overpopulation, worldwide starvation and the ozone layer were all supposed to end the Earth decades ago. Amazingly we keep on going around the sun day after day.