Erik Morales:Believe in me 1 more time.

[El Gamo]

I totally disagree with your points StARR,Manny has improved alot since the first fight! If he hadn't Erik would have beat on him again second time around. He used the jab more,he has an effective right hand,his body work was good and he almost had an in/ out boxer type movement ib the second fight. TOwards the end,he was blocking/walking through whatever Morales had so his D was not too bad either. He has DEFINITEYL improved and to call Manny 1 dimensional now would be disprespectful to the P4P number 1.

To Mayweather? And Manny aint improved Morales just traded more and payed for it and didn't have the gameplan he did in the first fight and he didn't do the same things either. You forget the fight was still close, like I said he didn't improve since the fight after the first Morales fight. I haven't seen a change in him other then the right hook and better jab(which again was the fight after th first Morales fight) and he aint improved from that and against Larios lead with the same three punches and I dont see his defense improving do you?

Well,apart from the third round versus the dangerous Larios,when did Larios catch Pacquiao flush(can't believe I'm defending Manny!).He didn't because Pacman caught everything on the guard.and you already changed your statement becuase firs you said he has not improved and now you say he uses the right hook...and yes,I have him ahead a Floyd Mayweather Junior,a trilogy with the legendary,hall of famer Erik Morales is quite possibly better than any fight Floyd Mayweather has ever taken. Heck,a tune up with Larios is more dangerous than any fight since Castillo,4 years ago,and JLC was not even P4P top 20 than and most thought he won the first fight.

[KKisser]

I totally disagree with your points StARR,Manny has improved alot since the first fight! If he hadn't Erik would have beat on him again second time around. He used the jab more,he has an effective right hand,his body work was good and he almost had an in/ out boxer type movement ib the second fight. TOwards the end,he was blocking/walking through whatever Morales had so his D was not too bad either. He has DEFINITEYL improved and to call Manny 1 dimensional now would be disprespectful to the P4P number 1.

To Mayweather? And Manny aint improved Morales just traded more and payed for it and didn't have the gameplan he did in the first fight and he didn't do the same things either. You forget the fight was still close, like I said he didn't improve since the fight after the first Morales fight. I haven't seen a change in him other then the right hook and better jab(which again was the fight after th first Morales fight) and he aint improved from that and against Larios lead with the same three punches and I dont see his defense improving do you?

Well,apart from the third round versus the dangerous Larios,when did Larios catch Pacquiao flush(can't believe I'm defending Manny!).He didn't because Pacman caught everything on the guard.and you already changed your statement becuase firs you said he has not improved and now you say he uses the right hook...and yes,I have him ahead a Floyd Mayweather Junior,a trilogy with the legendary,hall of famer Erik Morales is quite possibly better than any fight Floyd Mayweather has ever taken. Heck,a tune up with Larios is more dangerous than any fight since Castillo,4 years ago,and JLC was not even P4P top 20 than and most thought he won the first fight.

saddo has got to do something about this 24 hr rule regarding cc's.

[El Gamo]

I totally disagree with your points StARR,Manny has improved alot since the first fight! If he hadn't Erik would have beat on him again second time around. He used the jab more,he has an effective right hand,his body work was good and he almost had an in/ out boxer type movement ib the second fight. TOwards the end,he was blocking/walking through whatever Morales had so his D was not too bad either. He has DEFINITEYL improved and to call Manny 1 dimensional now would be disprespectful to the P4P number 1.

To Mayweather? And Manny aint improved Morales just traded more and payed for it and didn't have the gameplan he did in the first fight and he didn't do the same things either. You forget the fight was still close, like I said he didn't improve since the fight after the first Morales fight. I haven't seen a change in him other then the right hook and better jab(which again was the fight after th first Morales fight) and he aint improved from that and against Larios lead with the same three punches and I dont see his defense improving do you?

Well,apart from the third round versus the dangerous Larios,when did Larios catch Pacquiao flush(can't believe I'm defending Manny!).He didn't because Pacman caught everything on the guard.and you already changed your statement becuase firs you said he has not improved and now you say he uses the right hook...and yes,I have him ahead a Floyd Mayweather Junior,a trilogy with the legendary,hall of famer Erik Morales is quite possibly better than any fight Floyd Mayweather has ever taken. Heck,a tune up with Larios is more dangerous than any fight since Castillo,4 years ago,and JLC was not even P4P top 20 than and most thought he won the first fight.

saddo has got to do something about this 24 hr rule regarding cc's.

So I hit the nail on the head bro??CC back!

[KKisser]

I totally disagree with your points StARR,Manny has improved alot since the first fight! If he hadn't Erik would have beat on him again second time around. He used the jab more,he has an effective right hand,his body work was good and he almost had an in/ out boxer type movement ib the second fight. TOwards the end,he was blocking/walking through whatever Morales had so his D was not too bad either. He has DEFINITEYL improved and to call Manny 1 dimensional now would be disprespectful to the P4P number 1.

To Mayweather? And Manny aint improved Morales just traded more and payed for it and didn't have the gameplan he did in the first fight and he didn't do the same things either. You forget the fight was still close, like I said he didn't improve since the fight after the first Morales fight. I haven't seen a change in him other then the right hook and better jab(which again was the fight after th first Morales fight) and he aint improved from that and against Larios lead with the same three punches and I dont see his defense improving do you?

Well,apart from the third round versus the dangerous Larios,when did Larios catch Pacquiao flush(can't believe I'm defending Manny!).He didn't because Pacman caught everything on the guard.and you already changed your statement becuase firs you said he has not improved and now you say he uses the right hook...and yes,I have him ahead a Floyd Mayweather Junior,a trilogy with the legendary,hall of famer Erik Morales is quite possibly better than any fight Floyd Mayweather has ever taken. Heck,a tune up with Larios is more dangerous than any fight since Castillo,4 years ago,and JLC was not even P4P top 20 than and most thought he won the first fight.

saddo has got to do something about this 24 hr rule regarding cc's.

So I hit the nail on the head bro??CC back!

[pacfan]

I totally disagree with your points StARR,Manny has improved alot since the first fight! If he hadn't Erik would have beat on him again second time around. He used the jab more,he has an effective right hand,his body work was good and he almost had an in/ out boxer type movement ib the second fight. TOwards the end,he was blocking/walking through whatever Morales had so his D was not too bad either. He has DEFINITEYL improved and to call Manny 1 dimensional now would be disprespectful to the P4P number 1.

To Mayweather? And Manny aint improved Morales just traded more and payed for it and didn't have the gameplan he did in the first fight and he didn't do the same things either. You forget the fight was still close, like I said he didn't improve since the fight after the first Morales fight. I haven't seen a change in him other then the right hook and better jab(which again was the fight after th first Morales fight) and he aint improved from that and against Larios lead with the same three punches and I dont see his defense improving do you?

Well,apart from the third round versus the dangerous Larios,when did Larios catch Pacquiao flush(can't believe I'm defending Manny!).He didn't because Pacman caught everything on the guard.and you already changed your statement becuase firs you said he has not improved and now you say he uses the right hook...and yes,I have him ahead a Floyd Mayweather Junior,a trilogy with the legendary,hall of famer Erik Morales is quite possibly better than any fight Floyd Mayweather has ever taken. Heck,a tune up with Larios is more dangerous than any fight since Castillo,4 years ago,and JLC was not even P4P top 20 than and most thought he won the first fight.

saddo has got to do something about this 24 hr rule regarding cc's.

So I hit the nail on the head bro??CC back!

While I was relaxing there at the Villoria thread few blocks away, you guys were having fun here; no wonder why you were all gone from there. Wait a minute, let me catch my breath coz I'm huffin' and puffin' running here. Well anywayz, congratulations to my pal the great Elllll Phenomenaaaaa!!! I can almost see you grinning ear to ear ever since that "believe in me" statement of Erik the Terriiiiiiible. That's a good start for your brand new name and I bet it must've brought some good luck to Erik as well coz he's been very upbeat these days. As I've told before don't count The Terrible out, not just yet. But for me the El Fanatico, that was kinda scary. I wish I could be as positive as brodda Kkissaaa here but I've been always little kinda anxious type so those scary words of Erik has been sending chills down my spine ever since - that's the burden of being a fan(-anatic). I'll give this fight pretty much even, and think it will all depend on who's more motivated, Erik having a little advantage here, not to mention the conditioning - that's where the big question mark lies. As a Pac-fanatic, all I can say is that if he beat Erik convincingly, I think nobody will be able to beat him, at least for the next couple of years. As for Erik...hmmmm...let me think........naw, I let El Phenomena handle that coz that's 'beyond my scope.' But anywayz, this will be a good test for both fighters.

[babyboNe]

pac is gonna win again...no strings attach no crooked manager no headbutt cuts no way morales wins...specially todays pacman, em is just gonna sell the fight and get his a$s whoop bad...accept it haters...haha pac hasn't improve since the first fight? thats an idiots statement...we will see when pac destroy em agian...and the rest of the hopeless thats sent in the ring with him...

[El Gamo]

LOL,cc Pacfan bro,nice analysis,you hit the nail on the head,I was jumping for joy whenErik said that.I agree too that it wil come down to conditioning and will to win and I honestly believe Erik can do it. He must be burning inside to knock Pac out/win the fight! The only thing I disagree with is Pac being unbeatable if he beats Erik,no one is..there are always new threats etc although I think he would beat up on Barrera again!!

[pacfan]

LOL,cc Pacfan bro,nice analysis,you hit the nail on the head,I was jumping for joy whenErik said that.I agree too that it wil come down to conditioning and will to win and I honestly believe Erik can do it. He must be burning inside to knock Pac out/win the fight! The only thing I disagree with is Pac being unbeatable if he beats Erik,no one is..there are always new threats etc although I think he would beat up on Barrera again!!

CC back to you also, brod! So you must be looking like this or this the last couple of days, huh.

About Pac being unbeatable, actually I meant that as a compliment for Erik coz I really think he is the toughest customer out there for the Pac. That's why I think if Pac beats him again, he'll be unbeatable for a while, at least as a super-featherweight. I just couldn't see among the present list of boxers who can match the kind of fight Morales can give to Pac. He's tall, really tough and pretty strong. I'm not yet biting into the Barrios or Valero hype, not just yet. With just around 20 fights, they're just too inexperienced to be able to match the kind of competition Erik can give. And adding to that, they haven't faced any real elite fighter, with Mosquerra being the closest they can get. They remind me of Villoria, sensational record but untested. I clearly remember another slightly hyped Mexican fighter nicknamed "the Butcher" whom Manny fought just before Barrera. Undefeated at 21 fights, Manny stopped the hype with just one shot, turning the hype into an obscurity.

[El Gamo]

The butcHer LMAO!!! That's the difference now though bro,a young Morales would have gone to war with Pac for the full 12 rounds no problems,now he has to be more careful...whereas Valero,although he needs mor experience,has the power to fight back!! Difference though with Viloria and Valero is alot of respected writers(mainly Doug Fischer)rate him and these guys know their shit! Bro,I saw Valero NEARLY KO someone in sparring!! No lie,he shook HARD,I've never seen that before!

[pacfan]

The butcHer LMAO!!! That's the difference now though bro,a young Morales would have gone to war with Pac for the full 12 rounds no problems,now he has to be more careful...whereas Valero,although he needs mor experience,has the power to fight back!! Difference though with Viloria and Valero is alot of respected writers(mainly Doug Fischer)rate him and these guys know their S***! Bro,I saw Valero NEARLY KO someone in sparring!! No lie,he shook HARD,I've never seen that before!

Gotcha loud and clear. Boy, you were so exciiiiiiited there. I think you've just found a next Terriiiible in Valero. But take it easy pal, it's still little early, though I think he is really worth watching. I'd want him to fight Barrios or some other known tough elite fighter first and then, I think we'll know for sure if he is for real.

[pacfan]

The butcHer LMAO!!! That's the difference now though bro,a young Morales would have gone to war with Pac for the full 12 rounds no problems,now he has to be more careful...whereas Valero,although he needs mor experience,has the power to fight back!! Difference though with Viloria and Valero is alot of respected writers(mainly Doug Fischer)rate him and these guys know their S***! Bro,I saw Valero NEARLY KO someone in sparring!! No lie,he shook HARD,I've never seen that before!

I've thought of a very good question for you. If Morales and Valero fought now, who do you think will win (I think I 've put you on the spot there). But honestly, what do you think? just curios.

[El Gamo]

Bro,you don't know how excited I was when I saw Valero,his power was scary for a guy at 130!! Right now,I think ErIK would win a point decision if he could survive the Valero onslught but I mean,Morales said Valero has good power in both hands and was really nice when describing him so I think Valero has at least earnt his respect!!

[pacfan]

Bro,you don't know how excited I was when I saw Valero,his power was scary for a guy at 130!! Right now,I think ErIK would win a point decision if he could survive the Valero onslught but I mean,Morales said Valero has good power in both hands and was really nice when describing him so I think Valero has at least earnt his respect!!

Ok, now I BELIEVE ya! So he must be really something. Can't wait for his next fight, but I surely hope it'll be against some really classy fighter this time coz there isn't much excitement watching a real good fighter whippin' some unknown weaklings. So I'm keeping my finger crossed. We certainly need some jolting punches in the boxing world today, without much good fighters left and with some of the best reportedly ducking other great fighters.

[Mintymen]

I am a diehard Pac fan, but I believe in Erik, he certainly have it. What I would like to see before these guys call it Quits is what I've always dreamed about. MAB, JMM, EM, PAC LET'S GET IT ON. I've even respected Juan for his comments when he knocked the Thai out, the money both he and Pac would receive is not worth for their 2004 showcase. Now if ever they would meet again, it would be another barn burner. I always like JMM except for the fights after Pac. Polo and Salido saw what JMM could do when you come forward that's why they waited and waited and the fight started to look boring. Anyway, I would love for the four of them to have matches again on each other. Among the four really Pac has the bigger upside and he has beaten 2 out of 3 of these guys(but not 100%) so I would like to see them go at it all at 100%. After that all retire and let the next generation of SuperFeathers take over. by the way CC the game I mean EL PHENOMENA!!!!!!!