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    Default Erik Morales:Believe in me 1 more time.

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    "As everyone knows, that the last few times that I've been in the ring, it hasn't been that good for me," stated Mexican ring legend Erik Morales at today's press conference in Las Vegas to officially announce his November 18 rubber match with Filipino superstar Manny Pacquiao. "This gives me an opportunity to reverse everything and go back to where I belong. I'm asking you to believe in me one more time to show you what I can do." Pacquiao, who was the first to ever stop Morales in their second fight, stated, "It's going to be a good fight on November 18th. Both of us are trying to give you a good fight. I'm praying no one gets hurt on the 18th." Hall of Fame promoter Bob Arum commented that there is a whole staff of dependable people training Erik Morales so that he makes the 130lb weight limit for this fight. "Anybody who follows boxing and watches boxing will want to come to this fight or watch it on TV," stated the Top Rank CEO.


    YESSSSS!! Come onnn Erik,that is the type of talk I want to hear. I believe in him and I think he will win,I've chnaged my mind from before,this sounds like the El terrible i know and love. Come on!

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    Default Re: Erik Morales:Believe in me 1 more time.

    it'd be the best of the series but don't get your hopes up on erik cos pacquiao will come out on top of this one again. morales will be very competitive in the early rounds and will slowly fade. pacman by late round stoppage.

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    If Arum is serious about all of this fitness etc,I expect EM to last the distance,especially as he started training so early. I want him to work Pac's body and please wear the 8oz gloves,he can hurt Pac with the pillows,he can hurt him with the 8 ouncers. I'm going for EM,points or late stoppage and I know that sounds ridiculous but maybe if you will something to happen so badly,it just happens!!

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    Default Re: Erik Morales:Believe in me 1 more time.

    am a big fan of morales but just bigger fan of pac. i've always believed in erik just that i think manny is just better.

    keep on willing, bro.

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    Default Re: Erik Morales:Believe in me 1 more time.

    Morales will win

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    LMAO,Violent Demise,even though we agree,um I think you sad clicked me!!

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    hmmmmmmmmm did my boy THE GAME change his name?
    dude are u latin bro? i know u in UK right now. anyways bro if u think EM can do it thats great. that will make nov 18th even that much more exciting. thats why im excited to sit ringside to this even for free

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
    hmmmmmmmmm did my boy THE GAME change his name?
    dude are u latin bro? i know u in UK right now. anyways bro if u think EM can do it thats great. that will make nov 18th even that much more exciting. thats why im excited to sit ringside to this even for free
    Yeah my man BP4P,it's me. Just felt like a name change! Yeha man,you are in for an awesome night man,the fight going to be great and I hope really badly that EM can do it and it will be hard but I believe! I mean,I became a boxing fan when I saw EM v MAB on some ad,that's why I like the guy so much! I like PAC alot too though,how can you not! What's your prediction bro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Phenomena
    If Arum is serious about all of this fitness etc,I expect EM to last the distance,especially as he started training so early. I want him to work Pac's body and please wear the 8oz gloves,he can hurt Pac with the pillows,he can hurt him with the 8 ouncers. I'm going for EM,points or late stoppage and I know that sounds ridiculous but maybe if you will something to happen so badly,it just happens!!
    Thats quite some prediction , Erik by stoppage .If he wins IMO it will be on points cuz I cant see him hurting Pac .

    Im not sitting on the fence by saying it will be a draw but I think Erik will be better than last time , Pac not as good and it will cancel the other out . After 12 hard rounds each guy emerges without a victory

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    Quote Originally Posted by El Phenomena
    If Arum is serious about all of this fitness etc,I expect EM to last the distance,especially as he started training so early. I want him to work Pac's body and please wear the 8oz gloves,he can hurt Pac with the pillows,he can hurt him with the 8 ouncers. I'm going for EM,points or late stoppage and I know that sounds ridiculous but maybe if you will something to happen so badly,it just happens!!
    Thats quite some prediction , Erik by stoppage .If he wins IMO it will be on points cuz I cant see him hurting Pac .

    Im not sitting on the fence by saying it will be a draw but I think Erik will be better than last time , Pac not as good and it will cancel the other out . After 12 hard rounds each guy emerges without a victory
    That's what I mean,I really hope he wins by stoppage but it will be hard. He has stopped Pac in his tracks on numerous occasions in both fights and that is with the pillows,so if he wore the 8oz,my thinking is he could hurt Pac even more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Phenomena
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    Quote Originally Posted by El Phenomena
    If Arum is serious about all of this fitness etc,I expect EM to last the distance,especially as he started training so early. I want him to work Pac's body and please wear the 8oz gloves,he can hurt Pac with the pillows,he can hurt him with the 8 ouncers. I'm going for EM,points or late stoppage and I know that sounds ridiculous but maybe if you will something to happen so badly,it just happens!!
    Thats quite some prediction , Erik by stoppage .If he wins IMO it will be on points cuz I cant see him hurting Pac .

    Im not sitting on the fence by saying it will be a draw but I think Erik will be better than last time , Pac not as good and it will cancel the other out . After 12 hard rounds each guy emerges without a victory
    That's what I mean,I really hope he wins by stoppage but it will be hard. He has stopped Pac in his tracks on numerous occasions in both fights and that is with the pillows,so if he wore the 8oz,my thinking is he could hurt Pac even more.
    Hey game its like weve been seperated now youve changed ya username !

    I kniw Erik stung Pac in the first fight cuz Pac would wave his rms in the air in a stupid attempt at bravado to show he wasnt hurt . So its not inconceivable that he might get him going again in the 3rd fight but he'l have to do it early cuz the longer it goes the more I favour Pac . Another thing to remember is that if Larios can rock Pac like he did in Manilla then Erik certainly can but that was a casual display from Pac that night . I expect him to be alot more focused and business like here .

    Eriks chin is unlikely to let him down early on . Its the body shots and pace that might get to him so we'l see a coupl,e rounds off if its starting to get to Erik . Myt best bet is it will take Pac up till about round 10 to get Eriks legs wobbly and its a matter of whther Erik can survive the last 2 in order to hear the final bell .

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    Default Re: Erik Morales:Believe in me 1 more time.

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    Quote Originally Posted by El Phenomena
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    Quote Originally Posted by El Phenomena
    If Arum is serious about all of this fitness etc,I expect EM to last the distance,especially as he started training so early. I want him to work Pac's body and please wear the 8oz gloves,he can hurt Pac with the pillows,he can hurt him with the 8 ouncers. I'm going for EM,points or late stoppage and I know that sounds ridiculous but maybe if you will something to happen so badly,it just happens!!
    Thats quite some prediction , Erik by stoppage .If he wins IMO it will be on points cuz I cant see him hurting Pac .

    Im not sitting on the fence by saying it will be a draw but I think Erik will be better than last time , Pac not as good and it will cancel the other out . After 12 hard rounds each guy emerges without a victory
    That's what I mean,I really hope he wins by stoppage but it will be hard. He has stopped Pac in his tracks on numerous occasions in both fights and that is with the pillows,so if he wore the 8oz,my thinking is he could hurt Pac even more.
    Hey game its like weve been seperated now youve changed ya username !

    I kniw Erik stung Pac in the first fight cuz Pac would wave his rms in the air in a stupid attempt at bravado to show he wasnt hurt . So its not inconceivable that he might get him going again in the 3rd fight but he'l have to do it early cuz the longer it goes the more I favour Pac . Another thing to remember is that if Larios can rock Pac like he did in Manilla then Erik certainly can but that was a casual display from Pac that night . I expect him to be alot more focused and business like here .

    Eriks chin is unlikely to let him down early on . Its the body shots and pace that might get to him so we'l see a coupl,e rounds off if its starting to get to Erik . Myt best bet is it will take Pac up till about round 10 to get Eriks legs wobbly and its a matter of whther Erik can survive the last 2 in order to hear the final bell .
    We are still brothers man and CC,your points are very very good but I think Erik will prepare himself for the body work,and for the pace.He has to!He knows what Pac is going to do and he knos he needs to stop it. I agree,I think EM needs to hurt him big early on but I believe Erik,if he works on his conditioning,he can beat Pac. I think the break has done him good,he'll be refreshed,has time to get used to the weight and will win!(I hope!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Phenomena
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    Quote Originally Posted by El Phenomena
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    Quote Originally Posted by El Phenomena
    If Arum is serious about all of this fitness etc,I expect EM to last the distance,especially as he started training so early. I want him to work Pac's body and please wear the 8oz gloves,he can hurt Pac with the pillows,he can hurt him with the 8 ouncers. I'm going for EM,points or late stoppage and I know that sounds ridiculous but maybe if you will something to happen so badly,it just happens!!
    Thats quite some prediction , Erik by stoppage .If he wins IMO it will be on points cuz I cant see him hurting Pac .

    Im not sitting on the fence by saying it will be a draw but I think Erik will be better than last time , Pac not as good and it will cancel the other out . After 12 hard rounds each guy emerges without a victory
    That's what I mean,I really hope he wins by stoppage but it will be hard. He has stopped Pac in his tracks on numerous occasions in both fights and that is with the pillows,so if he wore the 8oz,my thinking is he could hurt Pac even more.
    Hey game its like weve been seperated now youve changed ya username !

    I kniw Erik stung Pac in the first fight cuz Pac would wave his rms in the air in a stupid attempt at bravado to show he wasnt hurt . So its not inconceivable that he might get him going again in the 3rd fight but he'l have to do it early cuz the longer it goes the more I favour Pac . Another thing to remember is that if Larios can rock Pac like he did in Manilla then Erik certainly can but that was a casual display from Pac that night . I expect him to be alot more focused and business like here .

    Eriks chin is unlikely to let him down early on . Its the body shots and pace that might get to him so we'l see a coupl,e rounds off if its starting to get to Erik . Myt best bet is it will take Pac up till about round 10 to get Eriks legs wobbly and its a matter of whther Erik can survive the last 2 in order to hear the final bell .
    We are still brothers man and CC,your points are very very good but I think Erik will prepare himself for the body work,and for the pace.He has to!He knows what Pac is going to do and he knos he needs to stop it. I agree,I think EM needs to hurt him big early on but I believe Erik,if he works on his conditioning,he can beat Pac. I think the break has done him good,he'll be refreshed,has time to get used to the weight and will win!(I hope!)
    I duno if a break from the ring is just what he needed . He may lack sharpness from it and timing . When a fighters out of the ring they need to get rid of the ring rust but he'l have no time for that .

    Whilst I agree he needed to give himself a break I think he should have taken a warm up . Instead hes fought Barrera / Raheem and Pac back to back so its hard to tell what he has left cuz we dont know how hed perform against a B level fighter . Eriks never been 1 for warm ups but he should have had 1 before this fight just to get back to winning ways , get his confidence up and keep his technique with a mark in time fight so when he does fight Pac he isnt shaking off rhe ring rust for the 1st couple rounds .

    Manny in his last fight tried to box more and if he uses this approach against Erik , it gives the Mexican a better chance . Mannys better as teh all out slugger as standing off takes away his best qualities . Erik has to somehow put Manny on the back foot , use the ring but reserve his own leg strength . Hel need to keep energy levels up in the second half so dont try to take Manny early with rushes . Ration his work if need be , keep the left hand pumping out and use those feints he was renowned for in his early career to give Manny plenty to think about and keep him guessing .

    I see him doing this atleast up until round 5 then Pacs corner will no doubt try a different approach . Eriks footwork and movement may begin to slow and thats when he will start getting caught with more body punches . Once Erik begins getting pushed back from flurries we will be witnessing a turning of the tide . Hel drop his arms and this is where the concentration seems to leave him . By round 8 Pac will be steeled into his work and the battlelines will be drawn . Erik wont allow himself to be dominated but will be on the back foot . In the second fight I noticed his poise changed when he was fearful of the body shots . In order to protect himself he had this crouched style and I see him using it here in the later rounds , replying to flurries but never really opening up . Pac will be darting in and out of range clsoing the gap on the scorecards with his highworkrate and pressure . I dont see any knockdowns but a competative fight where Erik answers fire with fire in the last 3 minutes . 115-115 Draw

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    Default Re: Erik Morales:Believe in me 1 more time.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Phenomena
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    Quote Originally Posted by El Phenomena
    If Arum is serious about all of this fitness etc,I expect EM to last the distance,especially as he started training so early. I want him to work Pac's body and please wear the 8oz gloves,he can hurt Pac with the pillows,he can hurt him with the 8 ouncers. I'm going for EM,points or late stoppage and I know that sounds ridiculous but maybe if you will something to happen so badly,it just happens!!
    Thats quite some prediction , Erik by stoppage .If he wins IMO it will be on points cuz I cant see him hurting Pac .

    Im not sitting on the fence by saying it will be a draw but I think Erik will be better than last time , Pac not as good and it will cancel the other out . After 12 hard rounds each guy emerges without a victory
    That's what I mean,I really hope he wins by stoppage but it will be hard. He has stopped Pac in his tracks on numerous occasions in both fights and that is with the pillows,so if he wore the 8oz,my thinking is he could hurt Pac even more.
    it could hurt erik more if he breaks his hands. it has happened before.

    good analysis, game. agree with everything you said except the draw part.
    i also feel it's a mistake for erik to take on manny again immediately for the 3rd time. i heard it thru the grapevine that there are plans for morales to move up to 135lbs after this and fight the winner of casamayor-corrales. if he gets badly beaten again by manny it could send him into retirement.

    also, erik's nutritionists has got to do a better job cos 2 weeks going into his weight program he still looks huge in the press conference for the fight yesterday. i feel he'd still be weight drain come fight night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kkisser
    Quote Originally Posted by El Phenomena
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    Quote Originally Posted by El Phenomena
    If Arum is serious about all of this fitness etc,I expect EM to last the distance,especially as he started training so early. I want him to work Pac's body and please wear the 8oz gloves,he can hurt Pac with the pillows,he can hurt him with the 8 ouncers. I'm going for EM,points or late stoppage and I know that sounds ridiculous but maybe if you will something to happen so badly,it just happens!!
    Thats quite some prediction , Erik by stoppage .If he wins IMO it will be on points cuz I cant see him hurting Pac .

    Im not sitting on the fence by saying it will be a draw but I think Erik will be better than last time , Pac not as good and it will cancel the other out . After 12 hard rounds each guy emerges without a victory
    That's what I mean,I really hope he wins by stoppage but it will be hard. He has stopped Pac in his tracks on numerous occasions in both fights and that is with the pillows,so if he wore the 8oz,my thinking is he could hurt Pac even more.
    it could hurt erik more if he breaks his hands. it has happened before.

    good analysis, game. agree with everything you said except the draw part.
    i also feel it's a mistake for erik to take on manny again immediately for the 3rd time. i heard it thru the grapevine that there are plans for morales to move up to 135lbs after this and fight the winner of casamayor-corrales. if he gets badly beaten again by manny it could send him into retirement.

    also, erik's nutritionists has got to do a better job cos 2 weeks going into his weight program he still looks huge in the press conference for the fight yesterday. i feel he'd still be weight drain come fight night.
    Who ya picking then kkisser ? The reason I picked draw is cuz I believe it will be a political decision given so both fighters retain their rep and credibility . I think Pac deserves to be a strong favourite and if I had to lean 1 way id go with him but I do predict a 12 rounder in this 1 . If Eriks going out then hes goin out fighting

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