Tavoris Cloud vs. Bernard Hopkins - Saturday night chat/fight thread

[IamInuit]

I think if Hop has anything left this could look like the Pavlik fight. If there is one guy Hop can still beat in the division its Cloud. You don't get much more one dimensional then he is.

[Galaxy]

I think if Hop has anything left this could look like the Pavlik fight. If there is one guy Hop can still beat in the division its Cloud. You don't get much more one dimensional then he is.

I'm thinking the same thing, it all really depends on where Hopkins is at these days...

[Galaxy]

I hope Mendez avenges the bad decision given to him last time these 2 met

[killersheep]

I don't think Hopkins has the reflexes to overcome Cloud's power at this point. Cloud is one-dimensional yes, but it's the only dimension he needs in this fight. I am completely writing B-hop off and will gladly eat crow if I'm wrong.

[Spicoli]

I got Hopkins..still. Hopkins wrote and mastered the blueprint Campillo used to box the ears off of Cloud years ago. A terrible style for Cloud to come back to and he'll go in thinking outloud and looking to implement 'changes' he has no clue of. And if he tries to blitz in and over Hopkins he'll be even more screwed. Hopkins tko 11 or unam. dec.

[Hulk]

I got Hopkins..still. Hopkins wrote and mastered the blueprint Campillo used to box the ears off of Cloud years ago. A terrible style for Cloud to come back to and he'll go in thinking outloud and looking to implement 'changes' he has no clue of. And if he tries to blitz in and over Hopkins he'll be even more screwed. Hopkins tko 11 or unam. dec.

That is a bold prediction as Hopkins hasn't stopped anyone in years and years.

I am a long time B-hop fan and will pick him again. However, I am worried he may finally be getn old. Cloud does bring the heat early and is a powerhouse.

The early rounds will be nerve racking. After that, if Hopkins can get into a groove then it could be another Bernard boxing clinic.

[hardcore_crash]

I don't have any predictions so far, but I hope Cloud's training in Big Bear has gone well.

[Mars_ax]

I got Hopkins..still. Hopkins wrote and mastered the blueprint Campillo used to box the ears off of Cloud years ago. A terrible style for Cloud to come back to and he'll go in thinking outloud and looking to implement 'changes' he has no clue of. And if he tries to blitz in and over Hopkins he'll be even more screwed. Hopkins tko 11 or unam. dec.

That is a bold prediction as Hopkins hasn't stopped anyone in years and years.

I am a long time B-hop fan and will pick him again. However, I am worried he may finally be getn old. Cloud does bring the heat early and is a powerhouse.

The early rounds will be nerve racking. After that, if Hopkins can get into a groove then it could be another Bernard boxing clinic.

Hop looked ancient against Dawson in the rematch, and he no longer has the ability pull that off. the Hop of old is gone, he's finished competing at the elite level.

[Kirkland Laing]

Hopkins on points. I'm not picking against him till he loses convincingly.

[Mars_ax]

Hopkins on points. I'm not picking against him till he loses convincingly.

I thought he lost convincingly to Dawson, and looked like an old man in the process.

[Mars_ax]

I got Hopkins..still. Hopkins wrote and mastered the blueprint Campillo used to box the ears off of Cloud years ago. A terrible style for Cloud to come back to and he'll go in thinking outloud and looking to implement 'changes' he has no clue of. And if he tries to blitz in and over Hopkins he'll be even more screwed. Hopkins tko 11 or unam. dec.

I tend to agree with this, but Hop was looking really old in the rematch with Dawson, so i'll just say that Cloud wins a stinky, boring UD.

[El Kabong]

I got Hopkins..still. Hopkins wrote and mastered the blueprint Campillo used to box the ears off of Cloud years ago. A terrible style for Cloud to come back to and he'll go in thinking outloud and looking to implement 'changes' he has no clue of. And if he tries to blitz in and over Hopkins he'll be even more screwed. Hopkins tko 11 or unam. dec.

I tend to agree with this, but Hop was looking really old in the rematch with Dawson, so i'll just say that Cloud wins a stinky, boring UD.

I don't think Bernard has the legs to make the fight terribly one sided. Cloud WILL connect, it's just a matter of how frequently and how clean. Also can Bernard take those punches? Cloud is not a tiny dude, he's strong. I can't recall the last time B-Hop fought someone this rough, this powerful.

[Mars_ax]

I got Hopkins..still. Hopkins wrote and mastered the blueprint Campillo used to box the ears off of Cloud years ago. A terrible style for Cloud to come back to and he'll go in thinking outloud and looking to implement 'changes' he has no clue of. And if he tries to blitz in and over Hopkins he'll be even more screwed. Hopkins tko 11 or unam. dec.

I tend to agree with this, but Hop was looking really old in the rematch with Dawson, so i'll just say that Cloud wins a stinky, boring UD.

I don't think Bernard has the legs to make the fight terribly one sided. Cloud WILL connect, it's just a matter of how frequently and how clean. Also can Bernard take those punches? Cloud is not a tiny dude, he's strong. I can't recall the last time B-Hop fought someone this rough, this powerful.

Hop has always been somewhat conservative with his punches, and even more so since he's gotten older. (that's the reason he lost both of his fights with Jermaine Taylor) Hop will try using every trick in his book to defeat Cloud, but it won't be enough, the much younger, more energetic Cloud will out ugly/work Hop and win a 12 round decision.

[Spicoli]

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I got Hopkins..still. Hopkins wrote and mastered the blueprint Campillo used to box the ears off of Cloud years ago. A terrible style for Cloud to come back to and he'll go in thinking outloud and looking to implement 'changes' he has no clue of. And if he tries to blitz in and over Hopkins he'll be even more screwed. Hopkins tko 11 or unam. dec.

I tend to agree with this, but Hop was looking really old in the rematch with Dawson, so i'll just say that Cloud wins a stinky, boring UD.[/QUOTE.

I don't think Bernard has the legs to make the fight terribly one sided. Cloud WILL connect, it's just a matter of how frequently and how clean. Also can Bernard take those punches? Cloud is not a tiny dude, he's strong. I can't recall the last time B-Hop fought someone this rough, this powerful.

Hop has always been somewhat conservative with his punches, and even more so since he's gotten older. (that's the reason he lost both of his fights with Jermaine Taylor) Hop will try using every trick in his book to defeat Cloud, but it won't be enough, the much younger, more energetic Cloud will out ugly/work Hop and win a 12 round decision.

I think Clouds energy can very well be used against him by a gloved crusty Yoda like Hopkins. He fights very very tense and although I do love his excitment and no bs approach he has no imagination and no second gear...no eye inside of his own hurricane. He's as strong as a Bull bit also as stubborn as one and it's raw strength. Hopkins will clinch him up and I think he can neutralize that strength by knowing what to do in there where Clouds inside game is on a milk carton and he can be pretty vertical. I don't think it's a bad match at all and am at the point where I'm stunned Father time hasn't pulled the floor from under Bernard and honestly a no frills guy like Cloud is getting a shot. I think he'll give Hopkins some Hell at times but I'm riding with the ring generalship and brain of the old geezer from Philly to rain on Clouds day. Ok that was Rodney Dangerfielf cheese

[Mars_ax]

I think if Hop has anything left this could look like the Pavlik fight. If there is one guy Hop can still beat in the division its Cloud. You don't get much more one dimensional then he is.

You will eat many Crow with this prediction grasshopper..