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    Quote Originally Posted by JakobM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave1066 View Post
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    Dave.... Yes, one should ALWAYS follow through.

    And you are correct that there are different views on the subject such as..... One should punch all the way through to the back of the target (in this case a bag) or one should hit the target with the idea of touching the spine, or one should aim to penetrate about 3 inches deep....

    Either way you slice it, one has to punch through.
    I tend to disagree with the above.
    You disagree that you should follow through??

    What?

    Also I never said anything about measure or range or distance..... Not to mention I never said anything about elbows... locking or otherwise.

    I think maybe we're trying to say the same thing to each other, but somehow it's being lost in translation.

    I'm ALL ABOUT hitting fucking HARD!

    I'm not sure where you're missing me.

    I will say though that one MUST have speed.

    For a whole lot of reasons.... To hit harder being just one of them.

    Cheers man!.... Don't get hung up on the semantics.
    You know from what I've posted before that, I agree with following through, and I explained in the post you quoted exactly what I ment. I'm not explaining again.

    Yes we could be getting lost in translation. If you've been around martial arts aslong as you say you have then, you know that range, distance, techniques(locking the elbow) has everything to do with power....If you use a straight punch at short range, it courses the bag to swing. Which is what you brought up! That is why I brought it up, range, power, locking the elbows. I did not state anywhere that you brought distance, range, elbows.

    Not sure how I'm missing you?
    Maybe because you said not to punch the bag....To strike the bag. Which says strike to me isn't full power compared to a punch. If you punch a close range shot, it will make the bag swing, using proper follow through.

    I said in the bit you cut out of my post you quoted "having said that my fists are fast". But I disagree with you on speed. If you look at boxing styles and individual boxers. You can see the difference. Having all out speed, you are not conveying all the power. A perfect example is Mulhammed Ali an outside fighter...Light on his feet, stays out of range, makes his opponent work. Then goes in with blistering fist speed, lands two to three fast punches and backs out. But hardly ever gets a KO. Compared to Evander Holyfield who is an inside fighter. Isn't about all out speed. Takes it to his opponent. Is about maximum power, slower speed, not athletic, but has an high KO rate. But both of them have good techniques and fundementals, even if they are different. Remember George Foreman was an inside fighter and faced some of the same oppenents as Ali but George KO them..When Ali didn't..Ali won on points or TKO. By speed I mean fist speed.

    So their is a difference. The speed your fists fly at is not as highly important as technique and every facet of technique for conveying power.
    Last edited by Dave1066; 03-05-2013 at 06:14 PM.
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