Hugo Chavez passes away

[Mars_ax]

@Kirkland Laing,

If I could, i'd piss on Chavez' grave, as well as any other South American anti-American dictator. What makes Chavez any different from Cuba's Castro, North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or any other sworn enemy of the U.S?

[El Kabong]

@Kirkland Laing,

If I could, i'd piss on Chavez' grave, as well as any other South American anti-American dictator. What makes Chavez any different from Cuba's Castro, North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or any other sworn enemy of the U.S?

...ummm he "wanted to help the poor" ...DUH! it's completely erroneous that the man simply pocketed the cash from nationalizing oil fields, he wanted to help the poor.....he had good intentions man...and by God that counts for something eh comrade?

[El Kabong]

How I Spent My Time in Hugo Chávez's Venezuela

An interesting read from a former radical

[Mars_ax]

@Kirkland Laing,

If I could, i'd piss on Chavez' grave, as well as any other South American anti-American dictator. What makes Chavez any different from Cuba's Castro, North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or any other sworn enemy of the U.S?

...ummm he "wanted to help the poor" ...DUH! it's completely erroneous that the man simply pocketed the cash from nationalizing oil fields, he wanted to help the poor.....he had good intentions man...and by God that counts for something eh comrade?

What you've got to remember is, it's all Bush's and/or America's fault that Chavez stole 100's of millions that never funneled down to the poor.

[El Kabong]

What you've got to remember is, it's all Bush's and/or America's fault that Chavez stole 100's of millions that never funneled down to the poor.

.....BILLIONS....2 of them

[Mars_ax]

Hopefully Venezuela will get a new less corrupt leader, with an IQ above room temperature.

[VictorCharlie]

It will be interesting to see if the VP is able to have the same cult of personality

[El Kabong]

It will be interesting to see if the VP is able to have the same cult of personality

Hand picked successors sometimes lose out to ambitious people waiting for their shot. Trotsky and Stalin come to mind.

[Kirkland Laing]

@Kirkland Laing ,

If I could, i'd piss on Chavez' grave, as well as any other South American anti-American dictator. What makes Chavez any different from Cuba's Castro, North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or any other sworn enemy of the U.S?

...ummm he "wanted to help the poor" ...DUH! it's completely erroneous that the man simply pocketed the cash from nationalizing oil fields, he wanted to help the poor.....he had good intentions man...and by God that counts for something eh comrade?

What you've got to remember is, it's all Bush's and/or America's fault that Chavez stole 100's of millions that never funneled down to the poor.

I'm not sure Chavez stole hundreds of millions. He certainly set his family up with various lucrative business opportunities in the part of Venezuela he comes from. And there was defnitely massive corruption in the Chavez government. But this is Venezuela we're talking about, a banana republic that used to be run by a few dozen families who used to keep all the dough, it's not going to become Switzerland in five minutes is it? Two-thirds of Venezuelans didn't even have electricity when Chavez came to power. Now the country has electricity, education, healthcare and so on. That would never have happened under the previous regimes.

So you're unaccountably hating a guy who did absolutely immense good in his own country because of stuff you read in the liberal media. It's amazing how powerful those guys are.

[Mars_ax]

@Kirkland Laing ,

If I could, i'd piss on Chavez' grave, as well as any other South American anti-American dictator. What makes Chavez any different from Cuba's Castro, North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or any other sworn enemy of the U.S?

...ummm he "wanted to help the poor" ...DUH! it's completely erroneous that the man simply pocketed the cash from nationalizing oil fields, he wanted to help the poor.....he had good intentions man...and by God that counts for something eh comrade?

What you've got to remember is, it's all Bush's and/or America's fault that Chavez stole 100's of millions that never funneled down to the poor.

I'm not sure Chavez stole hundreds of millions. He certainly set his family up with various lucrative business opportunities in the part of Venezuela he comes from. And there was defnitely massive corruption in the Chavez government. But this is Venezuela we're talking about, a banana republic that used to be run by a few dozen families who used to keep all the dough, it's not going to become Switzerland in five minutes is it? Two-thirds of Venezuelans didn't even have electricity when Chavez came to power. Now the country has electricity, education, healthcare and so on. That would never have happened under the previous regimes.

So you're unaccountably hating a guy who did absolutely immense good in his own country because of stuff you read in the liberal media. It's amazing how powerful those guys are.

Why do you think, me Lyle and Charlie, et al, are just parroting what the liberal media barfs up, and not expressing our own opinions? That's seems especially lame, since none of us are liberals?

As for hating Chavez, not really, I just have no respect for cock-waving dictators who are sworn enemies of the U.S.

[El Kabong]

OK, allow me to get this straight. Venezuela is a "Banana Republic", There was "Massive corruption in the Chavez government", but there he was "democratically elected"? So this guy in a corrupt country with a corrupt regime got elected and it was 100% on the up & up


As for the economy....5 Ways Chavez Has Destroyed the Venezuelan Economy - ABC News

[El Kabong]

Like most of the guys in Latin, Central, & South America Chavez loved to talk a big game, but in reality with his nation dependent on exporting vast amounts of oil he didn't want to step out of line with the United States. He was never going to attack us or anything like that, he might try to subvert us he attempted to do so with the Occupy Wall Street movement but he was 0 threat to the United States and he knew it, he just wanted to look like a big guy to his people so they wouldn't go Il Duce on his ass and string his fat ass up on a light pole....they DO have light poles in Venezuela verdad?

[Kirkland Laing]

OK, allow me to get this straight. Venezuela is a "Banana Republic", There was "Massive corruption in the Chavez government", but there he was "democratically elected"? So this guy in a corrupt country with a corrupt regime got elected and it was 100% on the up & up


As for the economy....5 Ways Chavez Has Destroyed the Venezuelan Economy - ABC News

There's corruption in every economy. There are corrupt politicians in the United States and the government is entirly corrupted by corporate money but they still manage to hold democratic elections. So why can't Venezuela.

Seeing as, like every other fucking subject on the planet, I've forgotten more about Venezuala than you know, let's look at the link you link. We'll go through it step by step and make it a learing experience for you. Firstly, they used a graph! See the end of growth and subsequent huge drop in GDP that started in 2000, one year after Chavez took office. What caused that? Why do you think it isn't mentioned in the article?

[Kirkland Laing]

@Kirkland Laing ,

If I could, i'd piss on Chavez' grave, as well as any other South American anti-American dictator. What makes Chavez any different from Cuba's Castro, North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or any other sworn enemy of the U.S?

...ummm he "wanted to help the poor" ...DUH! it's completely erroneous that the man simply pocketed the cash from nationalizing oil fields, he wanted to help the poor.....he had good intentions man...and by God that counts for something eh comrade?

What you've got to remember is, it's all Bush's and/or America's fault that Chavez stole 100's of millions that never funneled down to the poor.

I'm not sure Chavez stole hundreds of millions. He certainly set his family up with various lucrative business opportunities in the part of Venezuela he comes from. And there was defnitely massive corruption in the Chavez government. But this is Venezuela we're talking about, a banana republic that used to be run by a few dozen families who used to keep all the dough, it's not going to become Switzerland in five minutes is it? Two-thirds of Venezuelans didn't even have electricity when Chavez came to power. Now the country has electricity, education, healthcare and so on. That would never have happened under the previous regimes.

So you're unaccountably hating a guy who did absolutely immense good in his own country because of stuff you read in the liberal media. It's amazing how powerful those guys are.

Why do you think, me Lyle and Charlie, et al, are just parroting what the liberal media barfs up, and not expressing our own opinions? That's seems especially lame, since none of us are liberals?

As for hating Chavez, not really, I just have no respect for cock-waving dictators who are sworn enemies of the U.S.

What I'm saying is the media isn't liberal. Anybody that goes against US corporate interests is demonised by all US media. Thus Cyhavez, a democratically elected leader becomes a dictator who is a deadly enemy of the United States. Again, if he hadn't fucked with the 1% oil thing you'd never have heard of him. Without googling, who was the previous Venezuelan leader? How much US media coverage did he get? Who is the current president of Peru? Yeah.

[Kirkland Laing]

@Kirkland Laing ,

If I could, i'd piss on Chavez' grave, as well as any other South American anti-American dictator. What makes Chavez any different from Cuba's Castro, North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or any other sworn enemy of the U.S?

For one thing he won a popular election with a gigantic majority and then got re-elected every four years. As a general rule dictators don't hold democratic elections.

And like I said, Chavez is only known to Americans because he tried to get something close to a fair price -- more than 1%! -- of the oil they were pumping out of the country. If he'd left the oil situation alone you'd never have heard of him.