Will ONE frigging HW step up to the plate before it's too late?!?

[TysonBomb]

Trust me, if Wlad was from the US or UK, his popularity wouldn't be as high up there as you think.

Also, what charisma? I don't sense any of that from him ... although I will submit to the second two points. And its Vitali who is more involved in politics than Wlad, he just lost an election for mayor of Kiev IIRC.

The point is that he doesn't entertain in the ring ... he's dead scared of anything coming close to his chin and will never let his hands go or exchange with his opponent. He's robotic and stiff. The way he fights doesn't seem natural ... he's literally like a programmed machine who rehearses what he was taught. He doesn't have boxing instinct.

He would be more popular in America, but only due to his dominance and his terrible chin. But he wouldn't be a household name and he would probably be less popular globally, unless you mean he would be Ukranian American.

....ummm he's a dominant heavyweight champion who doesn't beat or rape women. He has a vocabulary higher than that of a 3rd grader. He was a model for Hugo Boss. When I say he's "politically aware & active" I don't mean he's running for office, I mean he has some causes he supports UNESCO (United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization) for one.

What Charisma?!?!? He's a funny dude, he makes fun of himself, other people, he's an affable fellow...he's one of the few boxers that the average person would be like "Yeah, I wouldn't mind grabbing a beer with that guy"


Oh but I suppose Mike Tyson & Ike Ibeabuchi were just AWESOME to be around


Plus if you knew how apeshit the American media went over Gerry Cooney & Tommy Morrison then PERHAPS you'd get a bit of an idea about what they would do for a boxer who is actually good

3rd grade vocabulary? Are you serious??

Tyson has a better vocabulary than any of the kitturds, if you've heard him speak (when serious) you would notice that. I'd venture to say he had a more extensive and broad vocab than any boxer ever. I'd also say that he probably has more pure boxing knowledge than anyone around, especially in regards to the history of the sport.

And you're reaching for shit now with Wlad supporting UNESCO. UNESCO isn't a political organization, its an educational agency. It has nothing to do with politics at all, despite the fact that it is funded by the UN, and Wlad supporting it doesn't mean shit ... theres a bunch of athletes and famous people involved in stuff like that. Wlad supporting an educational, anthropological agency funded by the UN doesn't make him involved in politics at all ... or education, or even anthropology.

He's probably a cool dude but I could care less if he was a model or not ... its his performance in the ring that is lacking.

[Beanflicker]

Tyson has a better vocabulary than any of the kitturds, if you've heard him speak (when serious) you would notice that. I'd venture to say he had a more extensive and broad vocab than any boxer ever.

Yeah, Mike was a regular silver-tongued politician.

"I want to kill people. I want to rip their stomachs out and eat their children"

"I'm 36 going on 36"

"I guess I'm gonna fade into Bolivian"

HAHAHAHAHAH fuckin Mike what a goof

[Spicoli]

Mike fights through serious pain...come on now guys!

[TysonBomb]

Tyson has a better vocabulary than any of the kitturds, if you've heard him speak (when serious) you would notice that. I'd venture to say he had a more extensive and broad vocab than any boxer ever.

Yeah, Mike was a regular silver-tongued politician.

"I want to kill people. I want to rip their stomachs out and eat their children"

"I'm 36 going on 36"

"I guess I'm gonna fade into Bolivian"

HAHAHAHAHAH fuckin Mike what a goof

being on a cocktail of drugs and alcohol abuse will make anyone sound like that, especially when trying to sell a fight

Mike wasn't a MENSA member but the man did have a very good vocabulary.

[Master]

The real challengers to Wlad are aiming for the WBC title that is being held by Vitali who is on the verge of retiring. The super heavies like Tyson Fury and Price (eventually) will be the real challenges to Wlad when they get their hands on the title and try to unify it.

[IamInuit]

The real challengers to Wlad are aiming for the WBC title that is being held by Vitali who is on the verge of retiring. The super heavies like Tyson Fury and Price (eventually) will be the real challenges to Wlad when they get their hands on the title and try to unify it.

Wlad probably has an iron clad contract in place to have first crack at his brothers title.

[Master]

The real challengers to Wlad are aiming for the WBC title that is being held by Vitali who is on the verge of retiring. The super heavies like Tyson Fury and Price (eventually) will be the real challenges to Wlad when they get their hands on the title and try to unify it.

Wlad probably has an iron clad contract in place to have first crack at his brothers title.

Probably but hope some super heavy wins it first and makes some defenses and then gives Wlad a real good challenge.

[El Kabong]

The level of competition is beneath Wladimir, it just is. Wlad will keep on defending his titles and catching hell because nobody is as dedicated to their craft or as skilled at their craft as he is...just the truth right now.

Now Klitschko's aside, this division is very competitive and there are fights everyone will like to see because you don't already know the outcome. Arreola-Stiverne is one I want to see (especially if they come to fight in shape), I think Wilder vs Fury should be made sooner rather than later or Jennings vs Fury, Jennings vs Povetkin, Arreola or Stiverne vs Povetkin, Fury vs Pulev, Adamek vs Jennings, Helenius vs Jennings, Helenius vs Arreola, Helenius vs Fury, Thompson vs Helenius, Fury vs Thompson....there are some interesting fights out there and I would like to see them, but I'm coming from a perspective where I don't see the division as a failure, I just see the level where the fights start to get competitive as below the championship level and more the contender level which means Wlad won't be tested but 2nd place is up for grabs

[boyla]

Agree with points made about Wlad not being famous.

Him sharing the Heavy Weight title with his brother is farcical, dilutes the division

PPV fights and boxing no longer being on terrestrial tv has played its part to.

Boxing as a whole is on the decline

[El Kabong]

Yeah Mike Tyson fucking MENSA member