He may not be cut like he used to be but how do you explain a 48 year old throwing more punches against stronger world champs than he was fighting nearly 8 years ago?Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Like I said, look at James Toney!
 |
|
|
|
Thanks: 0
Likes: 0
Dislikes: 0
Forum Greatest Of All Time
Array
Re: No one else even a tiny bit suspicious about Hopkins?
He may not be cut like he used to be but how do you explain a 48 year old throwing more punches against stronger world champs than he was fighting nearly 8 years ago?
Like I said, look at James Toney!
Consistent are the dead
Array
Re: No one else even a tiny bit suspicious about Hopkins?
You explain to me how a man on "sophisticated steroid" hasn't scored a knockout for ten years.He may not be cut like he used to be but how do you explain a 48 year old throwing more punches against stronger world champs than he was fighting nearly 8 years ago?
Like I said, look at James Toney!
You say tomato,
‘n I say …… it correctly.
Flat Calm and Peace Lovin
Array
Re: No one else even a tiny bit suspicious about Hopkins?
It is very difficult to sit through a Hopkins fight. There was more action in the Press conference link that you provided @ross and it was definitely more entertaining. I don't think his lack of hair has anything to do with anything. He fights like an Old man not a young man so I don't think he is the most obvious user of P.E.D's if he is using, but like Eric it would not surprise me.
Last edited by Beanz; 03-11-2013 at 05:12 PM.
Banned
Array
Re: No one else even a tiny bit suspicious about Hopkins?
Paying attention to his fights. Every round where he's very active it's usually followed by an inactive round. He gasses and than rests up. Pascal and Cloud let him get away with it. Dawson wouldn'tHe may not be cut like he used to be but how do you explain a 48 year old throwing more punches against stronger world champs than he was fighting nearly 8 years ago?
Like I said, look at James Toney!
Forum Greatest Of All Time
Array
Re: No one else even a tiny bit suspicious about Hopkins?
I am not a Hopkins fan but why don't we wait until the tests after a fight come in. In the meantime consider that Hopkins plays mind games and gets under your skin. He did prison time and that is one of the things you need to survive and quite frankly he seems to do that to everyone look at who he associates with at Golden Boy, do you think they are bosom buddies? Hopkins is a master of psyche and the next opponent should develope a hearing problem at those meetings. Some of you out there hating certain announcers turned me on to this way of thinking, turn off the volume but remember the world or the opponent is still out there, you just don't hear all those mouths.
Forum Contender
Array
Re: No one else even a tiny bit suspicious about Hopkins?
According to compubox:-He may not be cut like he used to be but how do you explain a 48 year old throwing more punches against stronger world champs than he was fighting nearly 8 years ago?
Like I said, look at James Toney!
Hopkins v Trinidad 653 punches thrown in 2001
Hopkins v Winky 640 punches thrown in 2007
Hopkins v Calzaghe 468 punches thrown in 2008
Hopkins v Pavlik 540 punches thrown in 2008
Hopkins v Dawson 2 punches thrown 400 in 2012
Hopkins v Cloud 417 punches thrown in 2013
What was your point?
Forum Greatest Of All Time
Array
Re: No one else even a tiny bit suspicious about Hopkins?
Well considering our testosterone levels start to diminish naturally in our early 30s (which is why if you look back at the greats of yesterday, they were all shit by the time they were 35-40 with few exceptions), if Bhop hasn't been using hormone replacement therapy or PED's, he needs to be brought to the Smithsonian and studied thoroughly.
Forum Contender
Array
Re: No one else even a tiny bit suspicious about Hopkins?
I think it's more a case of Hopkins living a very clean life, starting late, and looking good against mediocre fighters. Hopkins looked his age against Calzaghe or Dawson, and Ward would butcher him, but against the lethargic also-rans at light heavy he can still look like a spring chick.
Forum Greatest Of All Time
Array
Re: No one else even a tiny bit suspicious about Hopkins?
Hopkins vs Taylor, a fighter his own size at middleweight he threw 371. He throws less against fighters his own size but you cannot deny that from throwing 371 in 2005 when he was already 40 to throwing 400 against Dawson and 417 against Cloud 8 years later is not in he slightest suspicious?According to compubox:-He may not be cut like he used to be but how do you explain a 48 year old throwing more punches against stronger world champs than he was fighting nearly 8 years ago?
Like I said, look at James Toney!
Hopkins v Trinidad 653 punches thrown in 2001
Hopkins v Winky 640 punches thrown in 2007
Hopkins v Calzaghe 468 punches thrown in 2008
Hopkins v Pavlik 540 punches thrown in 2008
Hopkins v Dawson 2 punches thrown 400 in 2012
Hopkins v Cloud 417 punches thrown in 2013
What was your point?
Re: No one else even a tiny bit suspicious about Hopkins?
I'm a little suspicious but I'm not going to be all butt hurt about my guy Cloud getting beat. Hopkins can be on something and still get beaten, look at Wlad vs Wach. Wach was on PEDs and lost every single round.
Forum Contender
Array
Re: No one else even a tiny bit suspicious about Hopkins?
Taylor was an outstanding athlete, with quick hands, quick feet, and good lateral movement. Nobody throws a lot of punches against a guy like that. It's like asking why Pacquiao's punch output drops when he fights Marquez.Hopkins vs Taylor, a fighter his own size at middleweight he threw 371. He throws less against fighters his own size but you cannot deny that from throwing 371 in 2005 when he was already 40 to throwing 400 against Dawson and 417 against Cloud 8 years later is not in he slightest suspicious?According to compubox:-He may not be cut like he used to be but how do you explain a 48 year old throwing more punches against stronger world champs than he was fighting nearly 8 years ago?
Like I said, look at James Toney!
Hopkins v Trinidad 653 punches thrown in 2001
Hopkins v Winky 640 punches thrown in 2007
Hopkins v Calzaghe 468 punches thrown in 2008
Hopkins v Pavlik 540 punches thrown in 2008
Hopkins v Dawson 2 punches thrown 400 in 2012
Hopkins v Cloud 417 punches thrown in 2013
What was your point?
Forum Greatest Of All Time
Array
Re: No one else even a tiny bit suspicious about Hopkins?
Unless your Cory Spinks 542 or Winky Wight 643 both ex light middles...Taylor was an outstanding athlete, with quick hands, quick feet, and good lateral movement. Nobody throws a lot of punches against a guy like that. It's like asking why Pacquiao's punch output drops when he fights Marquez.Hopkins vs Taylor, a fighter his own size at middleweight he threw 371. He throws less against fighters his own size but you cannot deny that from throwing 371 in 2005 when he was already 40 to throwing 400 against Dawson and 417 against Cloud 8 years later is not in he slightest suspicious?According to compubox:-He may not be cut like he used to be but how do you explain a 48 year old throwing more punches against stronger world champs than he was fighting nearly 8 years ago?
Like I said, look at James Toney!
Hopkins v Trinidad 653 punches thrown in 2001
Hopkins v Winky 640 punches thrown in 2007
Hopkins v Calzaghe 468 punches thrown in 2008
Hopkins v Pavlik 540 punches thrown in 2008
Hopkins v Dawson 2 punches thrown 400 in 2012
Hopkins v Cloud 417 punches thrown in 2013
What was your point?
Forum Champ
Array
Re: No one else even a tiny bit suspicious about Hopkins?
*Correct me if im wrong, but wasn't toney using to bulk up... not really the same thing with Hopkins... Hopkins body looks like an older in shape body. He's not doing anything he wasn't doing before. The guy is a known gym rat and eats right. He's walks around at fighting weight... he's not on PEDS..he's still the same ole boring Hopkins.He may not be cut like he used to be but how do you explain a 48 year old throwing more punches against stronger world champs than he was fighting nearly 8 years ago?
Like I said, look at James Toney!
p.s... i alway said Lance armstrong is on PEDS... and i'll always believe Pac is on something as well.
change me
Array
Re: No one else even a tiny bit suspicious about Hopkins?
*Correct me if im wrong, but wasn't toney using to bulk up... not really the same thing with Hopkins... Hopkins body looks like an older in shape body. He's not doing anything he wasn't doing before. The guy is a known gym rat and eats right. He's walks around at fighting weight... he's not on PEDS..he's still the same ole boring Hopkins.He may not be cut like he used to be but how do you explain a 48 year old throwing more punches against stronger world champs than he was fighting nearly 8 years ago?
Like I said, look at James Toney!
p.s... i alway said Lance armstrong is on PEDS... and i'll always believe Pac is on something as well.
What he said^^
Out of all the boxers out there today Bhop is the last guy I would suspect. Its like accusing Archie Moore.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Reply With Quote
Bookmarks