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    Default Re: Ali vs Holmes: what could have been!

    I liked Holmes too. But what can be seen in the Ali fight in 1980 is that Holmes was not in the same class as Ali. Watch the 7th round. Ali is able to throw and land jabs from every angle, leaning down, leaning left, leaning right, double jabs to the body, double jabs to the head, jabbing standing straight up, jabbing while retreating---at one point Holmes was getting embarrassed by the jabs, he got really angry after about 14 of them landed crisp, and he grabbed and shoved Ali and even Howard Cosell points it out, that Ali still had the Wizardry left in him, albeit slower and less powerful. The 7th round in my opinion proves who was a better fighter than who. Ali dehydrated and running out of gas and taking shots on the ropes and his legs out of coordination with each other due to early-onset Parkinson's does NOT show Holmes to be the better fighter.

    Imagine 1967 Clay against Holmes. Clay by KO in 7.

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    Fighters do take a breather, I couldn't really read too much into a single round. Ali was shot and that was it, prime for prime it is an Ali win and fairly comfortably so.

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    Default Re: Ali vs Holmes: what could have been!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Fighters do take a breather, I couldn't really read too much into a single round. Ali was shot and that was it, prime for prime it is an Ali win and fairly comfortably so.
    Agreed just because Ali got some shots in the 7th round does not really mean much in reality. Tyson toyed with Holmes to the extent that Holmes started getting cocky and messing about at the start of the 4th round he was dancing around. You know what happened then.
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