When David met Wlad..

[bzkfn]

I don't think Wlad took anything from Haye. He just defeated him, he didn't dish out a beating in any way, it was just a clear Wlad decision and other than a little hurt pride, I don't think it has effected Haye on a massive scale.

Lyle is very bias on this and his hatred towards Haye kind of leads him to say things harsher than they actually need to be. He called the Wlad-Haye fight perfectly for years though so I have alot of respect for that. Either way you look at it Haye turned up for the payday rather than the glory. It pissed alot of us Brits off though because it is very clear that Haye's skillset is capable of much more than this once a year "talk a fight" parade we are given. My belief is still that Haye could clean out the division, but I don't believe he really wants to do it.

[IamInuit]

I don't think Wlad took anything from Haye. He just defeated him, he didn't dish out a beating in any way, it was just a clear Wlad decision and other than a little hurt pride, I don't think it has effected Haye on a massive scale.

Lyle is very bias on this and his hatred towards Haye kind of leads him to say things harsher than they actually need to be. He called the Wlad-Haye fight perfectly for years though so I have alot of respect for that. Either way you look at it Haye turned up for the payday rather than the glory. It pissed alot of us Brits off though because it is very clear that Haye's skillset is capable of much more than this once a year "talk a fight" parade we are given. My belief is still that Haye could clean out the division, but I don't believe he really wants to do it.

Very fair post about the fight.

I think Haye realized almost immediately that the task at hand was quite different then what he saw endlessly no doubt in the Purity and Sanders fights. I think Haye turned up for the payday shortly after the first bell. It was simply not the same fighter he watched on tape. He was my biggest let down with that performance since Kirk Johnson met Vitali. He never even tried to get under the jab with a blister hook. Peter did it and he is about as fast as a leatherback turtle.

As far as "Lyle's" prediction goes I cant really comment because I was not all that active here at the time. I never even knew who Lyle was to be frank until recently. Now I know its Mr. Kabong. I'll continue to call him El. I enjoy his non sugar coated approach and in hindsight he's spot on and I'm not convinced that hate has anything to do with it. Hayes a blowhard who has no connection to legacy. And he fooled me completely.

[TitoFan]

My belief is still that Haye could clean out the division, but I don't believe he really wants to do it.

See here's the thing. If Haye thought he could do it, he would be trying to do just that. But by holding out for a Klitschko, he's telling the world he doesn't think he can grind his way through the top contenders. Whether he could or not is irrelevant. And he does himself no favors (with Brits or otherwise), by shooting his mouth with empty promises.

[Vendettos]

What happened was 2 outside fighters met on he world stage and ruined one of the biggest fights of the year.

David Haye tried to look for the 1 shot to drop Wlad (which it would have) and he never found it. He was cautious of Wlads power, too cautious.

Positives for Haye.
-he proved he has a good chin that can be hit repeatedly by a solid puncher.


Wlad did what Wlad does well, avoids getting hit and fired his jab straight all night.

[erics44]

i was in benedorm on a stag do and i put 1 bet on the fight, 5 euros on wlad by UD

won myself 35

haye takes all of the blame for the fight, and perhaps he deserves a lot of it after he promised so much (wlad also promised a KO though and jabbed and held)

but wlad has been fighting the same causious back foot avoid getting hit way for years

yeah haye contributed to making a big HW title fight boring, wlad does that a couple of times a year

[Vendettos]

haye contributed to making a big HW title fight boring, wlad does that a couple of times a year

Couldn't agree more with this.

[Fenster]

I don't think Wlad took anything from Haye. He just defeated him, he didn't dish out a beating in any way, it was just a clear Wlad decision and other than a little hurt pride, I don't think it has effected Haye on a massive scale.

Lyle is very bias on this and his hatred towards Haye kind of leads him to say things harsher than they actually need to be. He called the Wlad-Haye fight perfectly for years though so I have alot of respect for that. Either way you look at it Haye turned up for the payday rather than the glory. It pissed alot of us Brits off though because it is very clear that Haye's skillset is capable of much more than this once a year "talk a fight" parade we are given. My belief is still that Haye could clean out the division, but I don't believe he really wants to do it.

No he didn't () - Wlad was going to take the fight to Haye, punish him and look spectacular with a KO victory.

[TitoFan]

I don't think Wlad took anything from Haye. He just defeated him, he didn't dish out a beating in any way, it was just a clear Wlad decision and other than a little hurt pride, I don't think it has effected Haye on a massive scale.

Lyle is very bias on this and his hatred towards Haye kind of leads him to say things harsher than they actually need to be. He called the Wlad-Haye fight perfectly for years though so I have alot of respect for that. Either way you look at it Haye turned up for the payday rather than the glory. It pissed alot of us Brits off though because it is very clear that Haye's skillset is capable of much more than this once a year "talk a fight" parade we are given. My belief is still that Haye could clean out the division, but I don't believe he really wants to do it.

No he didn't () - Wlad was going to take the fight to Haye, punish him and look spectacular with a KO victory.

It became a contest of who could sink the lowest from pre-fight expectations.

It was close... but Haye won.

[erics44]

I don't think Wlad took anything from Haye. He just defeated him, he didn't dish out a beating in any way, it was just a clear Wlad decision and other than a little hurt pride, I don't think it has effected Haye on a massive scale.

Lyle is very bias on this and his hatred towards Haye kind of leads him to say things harsher than they actually need to be. He called the Wlad-Haye fight perfectly for years though so I have alot of respect for that. Either way you look at it Haye turned up for the payday rather than the glory. It pissed alot of us Brits off though because it is very clear that Haye's skillset is capable of much more than this once a year "talk a fight" parade we are given. My belief is still that Haye could clean out the division, but I don't believe he really wants to do it.

No he didn't () - Wlad was going to take the fight to Haye, punish him and look spectacular with a KO victory.

It became a contest of who could sink the lowest from pre-fight expectations.

It was close... but Haye won.

nicely summed up

[erics44]

actually tho, should haye have been given a slight handicap?

fighting away from home against a giant?

[Fenster]

I don't think Wlad took anything from Haye. He just defeated him, he didn't dish out a beating in any way, it was just a clear Wlad decision and other than a little hurt pride, I don't think it has effected Haye on a massive scale.

Lyle is very bias on this and his hatred towards Haye kind of leads him to say things harsher than they actually need to be. He called the Wlad-Haye fight perfectly for years though so I have alot of respect for that. Either way you look at it Haye turned up for the payday rather than the glory. It pissed alot of us Brits off though because it is very clear that Haye's skillset is capable of much more than this once a year "talk a fight" parade we are given. My belief is still that Haye could clean out the division, but I don't believe he really wants to do it.

No he didn't () - Wlad was going to take the fight to Haye, punish him and look spectacular with a KO victory.

It became a contest of who could sink the lowest from pre-fight expectations.

It was close... but Haye won.

Well it wasn't really close. Haye won by a mile. He fooled even hardcore fans into believing they were about to see the second coming. Wlad was just his usual self (dull).

[Mars_ax]

Did you mean David Hype? Some of you Brits must really love this clown, because never has a "big name" fighter gotten so much attention, while accomplishing so little.

It's sad to see some of you still hanging on haye's nuts and/or still buying the hype.

[Master]

Haye put in a dismall performance against Wlad. Haye tried landing the big punch but Wlad is a lot better than that now. Wlad owned Haye in the pre-fight hype and Haye made a complete prat of himself with his toe injury.

Haye wants to beat Vitali who is slow and aged a lot recently and then make amends and put a better effort against Wlad if he beat his brother Vitali.

[Mars_ax]

Haye put in a dismall performance against Wlad. Haye tried landing the big punch but Wlad is a lot better than that now. Wlad owned Haye in the pre-fight hype and Haye made a complete prat of himself with his toe injury.

Haye wants to beat Vitali who is slow and aged a lot recently and then make amends and put a better effort against Wlad if he beat his brother Vitali.

Haye wouldn't beat Vitali if he was 60, and if he fought Wlad again, he gets crushed.

The only reason Haye will ever get a fight with either Klitschko Bro is money, because he damn sure hasn't earned it in the ring. The same suckers who paid to see Haye lose to Wlad the 1st time will be throwing their money away again. Fools never learn.

[Silkeyjoe]

Did you mean David Hype? Some of you Brits must really love this clown, because never has a "big name" fighter gotten so much attention, while accomplishing so little.

It's sad to see some of you still hanging on haye's nuts and/or still buying the hype.

Yea it's amazing. Haye has beaten no one as a heavyweight yet many people rank him 3rd. Would he honestly beat a top 10 heavyweight? And if so why hasn't he yet? I think he woul beat Povetkin, Wilder, Adamek but why is he not pursuing these fights?