When David met Wlad..

[TitoFan]

I'm more of a boxing fan, than a Haye hater. I'm also hanging on to a shred of hope that the heavyweight division will somehow surprise me, and at least get off the bottom of the barrel, as it has been for the last decade and a half or so.

Haye's talented... I've never said otherwise. But he talked too much shit without even trying to back it up when he finally got in the ring with Wlad. After that he's made a lot of noise about wanting no one else but a Klitschko..... a slap in the face of all the other heavies out there who have been toiling in the trenches trying to earn a shot at a Klitschko.

If Haye drops his act and starts taking on top contenders and working his way toward a possible redemption, I'll very likely change my view of him. And since I'm dying for the heavyweight division to scrape itself off the bottom.... I'll cheer for anyone who can give a Klitschko (mostly Wlad) the competitive fight I've been so desperate to see.

As much as Haye disapointed everyone in that fight (i was as irritated by it as anyone) do you think there's anyone in the world with a better chance of beating Wlad than haye?

It's probable that one or two of these (giant) prospects might be able to give Wlad a good, competitive fight, and even hurt him. But the time it's taking to sort these out is unbearably frustrating. If it's not the Wilders of the division, doing their best Cesar Chavez Jr. imitations (fighting bums)..... it's the injuries and mysterious inactive spells. Then you get a promising fighter (Price) who stumbles out of the gate. I for one think he's not done by any means..... but then again he's buddies with Wlad and will never fight him, so what's the point?

As for the chances of Haye beating Wlad? I'm sorry to say that solely based on their one and only fight..... it's like the snowball's chance in hell. And don't lean on the size difference so much. It's not like it's the first time a small heavyweight has been in there with a large heavyweight. It's not the size of the body. It's the size of the heart.

[erics44]

It's probable that one or two of these (giant) prospects might be able to give Wlad a good, competitive fight, and even hurt him. But the time it's taking to sort these out is unbearably frustrating. If it's not the Wilders of the division, doing their best Cesar Chavez Jr. imitations (fighting bums)..... it's the injuries and mysterious inactive spells. Then you get a promising fighter (Price) who stumbles out of the gate. I for one think he's not done by any means..... but then again he's buddies with Wlad and will never fight him, so what's the point?

As for the chances of Haye beating Wlad? I'm sorry to say that solely based on their one and only fight..... it's like the snowball's chance in hell. And don't lean on the size difference so much. It's not like it's the first time a small heavyweight has been in there with a large heavyweight. It's not the size of the body. It's the size of the heart.

it sounds like we both want to see the same thing, and thats wlad in a fight

I agree Hayes chances are minimal although I think his performance isnt judged fairly because of the build up

you didnt really answer my question tho which suggests to me you agree, hayes minimal chances are the best weve got

i honestly think haye is the only man with the combination of skill speed and power to land the punch, i dont see wilder fury or price causing wlad much problems at all at the minute

pulev looks good and perhaps has the chance, he doesnt seem to be a big enough hitter tho, although do you need to be to put wlad away

[TitoFan]

It's probable that one or two of these (giant) prospects might be able to give Wlad a good, competitive fight, and even hurt him. But the time it's taking to sort these out is unbearably frustrating. If it's not the Wilders of the division, doing their best Cesar Chavez Jr. imitations (fighting bums)..... it's the injuries and mysterious inactive spells. Then you get a promising fighter (Price) who stumbles out of the gate. I for one think he's not done by any means..... but then again he's buddies with Wlad and will never fight him, so what's the point?

As for the chances of Haye beating Wlad? I'm sorry to say that solely based on their one and only fight..... it's like the snowball's chance in hell. And don't lean on the size difference so much. It's not like it's the first time a small heavyweight has been in there with a large heavyweight. It's not the size of the body. It's the size of the heart.

it sounds like we both want to see the same thing, and thats wlad in a fight

I agree Hayes chances are minimal although I think his performance isnt judged fairly because of the build up

you didnt really answer my question tho which suggests to me you agree, hayes minimal chances are the best weve got

i honestly think haye is the only man with the combination of skill speed and power to land the punch, i dont see wilder fury or price causing wlad much problems at all at the minute

pulev looks good and perhaps has the chance, he doesnt seem to be a big enough hitter tho, although do you need to be to put wlad away

But Haye hasn't done much to earn a rematch with Wlad, eric. Demanding to fight no one but a Klitschko isn't the way to get it done. He had his chance... and blew it. He personally hyped the fight to much more than what it turned out to be..... infamously blamed a big toe for the lack of performance..... and now still insists on his prima donna act.

Yes... I want to see Wlad in a fight in the worst way. I was hoping we'd get that from Haye. It didn't happen. And now..... it's "back of the line" for Haye. I don't believe in special treatments. Just because the division is made up of so much riff-raff, doesn't mean Haye gets a free pass while other, toiling HW's have to wait their turn. That's like Thompson getting a third crack at Wlad. I wouldn't want that either.

[erics44]

It's probable that one or two of these (giant) prospects might be able to give Wlad a good, competitive fight, and even hurt him. But the time it's taking to sort these out is unbearably frustrating. If it's not the Wilders of the division, doing their best Cesar Chavez Jr. imitations (fighting bums)..... it's the injuries and mysterious inactive spells. Then you get a promising fighter (Price) who stumbles out of the gate. I for one think he's not done by any means..... but then again he's buddies with Wlad and will never fight him, so what's the point?

As for the chances of Haye beating Wlad? I'm sorry to say that solely based on their one and only fight..... it's like the snowball's chance in hell. And don't lean on the size difference so much. It's not like it's the first time a small heavyweight has been in there with a large heavyweight. It's not the size of the body. It's the size of the heart.

it sounds like we both want to see the same thing, and thats wlad in a fight

I agree Hayes chances are minimal although I think his performance isnt judged fairly because of the build up

you didnt really answer my question tho which suggests to me you agree, hayes minimal chances are the best weve got

i honestly think haye is the only man with the combination of skill speed and power to land the punch, i dont see wilder fury or price causing wlad much problems at all at the minute

pulev looks good and perhaps has the chance, he doesnt seem to be a big enough hitter tho, although do you need to be to put wlad away

But Haye hasn't done much to earn a rematch with Wlad, eric. Demanding to fight no one but a Klitschko isn't the way to get it done. He had his chance... and blew it. He personally hyped the fight to much more than what it turned out to be..... infamously blamed a big toe for the lack of performance..... and now still insists on his prima donna act.

Yes... I want to see Wlad in a fight in the worst way. I was hoping we'd get that from Haye. It didn't happen. And now..... it's "back of the line" for Haye. I don't believe in special treatments. Just because the division is made up of so much riff-raff, doesn't mean Haye gets a free pass while other, toiling HW's have to wait their turn. That's like Thompson getting a third crack at Wlad. I wouldn't want that either.

absolutely

id be happy to see him skip the proving it though and go straight into another try

[El Kabong]

If Haye pressured Wlad then Wlad would have stopped him FACT. The only reason he didn't was because #1 Wlad wanted the fight to go 12 and #2 David wouldn't engage in any kind of boxing, he either ran or feigned as though Wlad had fouled him and looked to the ref for help.

Champions don't behave like that and Haye should stay away from boxing on account of it. Did David have talent? Yeah I'll be the first to admit it, he is a very solid athlete: strong, quick, powerful.....but he's one of those guys that pisses it away he's got a million dollar body and a 10 cent brain. Go out on your shield and I'll have respect for you, but talk shit for YEARS and then provide that kind of performance?!?! As a fan of boxing I say "no thank you"....Bruce Seldon showed more backbone than Haye has at heavyweight.