When David met Wlad..

[erics44]

Did you mean David Hype? Some of you Brits must really love this clown, because never has a "big name" fighter gotten so much attention, while accomplishing so little.

It's sad to see some of you still hanging on haye's nuts and/or still buying the hype.

this isnt true, it happens over and over again

boxing is all about hype

[TitoFan]

Did you mean David Hype? Some of you Brits must really love this clown, because never has a "big name" fighter gotten so much attention, while accomplishing so little.

It's sad to see some of you still hanging on haye's nuts and/or still buying the hype.

this isnt true, it happens over and over again

boxing is all about hype

And when the actions follow, and back up the hype, all is well and good.
But when it doesn't, it rings hollow and makes the fighter look like a fool.
Fans that continue to buy the "snake-oil salesman" pitch don't look too good, either.

[erics44]

Did you mean David Hype? Some of you Brits must really love this clown, because never has a "big name" fighter gotten so much attention, while accomplishing so little.

It's sad to see some of you still hanging on haye's nuts and/or still buying the hype.

this isnt true, it happens over and over again

boxing is all about hype

And when the actions follow, and back up the hype, all is well and good.
But when it doesn't, it rings hollow and makes the fighter look like a fool.
Fans that continue to buy the "snake-oil salesman" pitch don't look too good, either.

you are right, the outcome of this kind of hype around a fighter varies from hyped fighter to hyped fighter

and in the example of david haye a lot of people switched off to his potential following the wlad fight and are very angry about how he performed (you seem to be one of these)

there are a lot of people who still believe haye is the best chance (in a shit crop of fighters) we have got to seeing a klit toppled , i am also of this opinion as slim as this chance is

yeah haye didnt perform in that fight, but if we analise the fight and only the fight, haye was away from home fighting a man several inches taller, a lot heavier, with many more world title fights of that magnitude under his belt in comparison, and if your honest you would agree the refereeing isnt exactly neutral, and haye still landed more punches than most, maybe next time with the extra experience he could get a little bit closer

[TitoFan]

Did you mean David Hype? Some of you Brits must really love this clown, because never has a "big name" fighter gotten so much attention, while accomplishing so little.

It's sad to see some of you still hanging on haye's nuts and/or still buying the hype.

this isnt true, it happens over and over again

boxing is all about hype

And when the actions follow, and back up the hype, all is well and good.
But when it doesn't, it rings hollow and makes the fighter look like a fool.
Fans that continue to buy the "snake-oil salesman" pitch don't look too good, either.

you are right, the outcome of this kind of hype around a fighter varies from hyped fighter to hyped fighter

and in the example of david haye a lot of people switched off to his potential following the wlad fight and are very angry about how he performed (you seem to be one of these)

there are a lot of people who still believe haye is the best chance (in a shit crop of fighters) we have got to seeing a klit toppled , i am also of this opinion as slim as this chance is

yeah haye didnt perform in that fight, but if we analise the fight and only the fight, haye was away from home fighting a man several inches taller, a lot heavier, with many more world title fights of that magnitude under his belt in comparison, and if your honest you would agree the refereeing isnt exactly neutral, and haye still landed more punches than most, maybe next time with the extra experience he could get a little bit closer

I'm more of a boxing fan, than a Haye hater. I'm also hanging on to a shred of hope that the heavyweight division will somehow surprise me, and at least get off the bottom of the barrel, as it has been for the last decade and a half or so.

Haye's talented... I've never said otherwise. But he talked too much shit without even trying to back it up when he finally got in the ring with Wlad. After that he's made a lot of noise about wanting no one else but a Klitschko..... a slap in the face of all the other heavies out there who have been toiling in the trenches trying to earn a shot at a Klitschko.

If Haye drops his act and starts taking on top contenders and working his way toward a possible redemption, I'll very likely change my view of him. And since I'm dying for the heavyweight division to scrape itself off the bottom.... I'll cheer for anyone who can give a Klitschko (mostly Wlad) the competitive fight I've been so desperate to see.

[erics44]

I'm more of a boxing fan, than a Haye hater. I'm also hanging on to a shred of hope that the heavyweight division will somehow surprise me, and at least get off the bottom of the barrel, as it has been for the last decade and a half or so.

Haye's talented... I've never said otherwise. But he talked too much shit without even trying to back it up when he finally got in the ring with Wlad. After that he's made a lot of noise about wanting no one else but a Klitschko..... a slap in the face of all the other heavies out there who have been toiling in the trenches trying to earn a shot at a Klitschko.

If Haye drops his act and starts taking on top contenders and working his way toward a possible redemption, I'll very likely change my view of him. And since I'm dying for the heavyweight division to scrape itself off the bottom.... I'll cheer for anyone who can give a Klitschko (mostly Wlad) the competitive fight I've been so desperate to see.

As much as Haye disapointed everyone in that fight (i was as irritated by it as anyone) do you think there's anyone in the world with a better chance of beating Wlad than haye?

[TitoFan]

I'm more of a boxing fan, than a Haye hater. I'm also hanging on to a shred of hope that the heavyweight division will somehow surprise me, and at least get off the bottom of the barrel, as it has been for the last decade and a half or so.

Haye's talented... I've never said otherwise. But he talked too much shit without even trying to back it up when he finally got in the ring with Wlad. After that he's made a lot of noise about wanting no one else but a Klitschko..... a slap in the face of all the other heavies out there who have been toiling in the trenches trying to earn a shot at a Klitschko.

If Haye drops his act and starts taking on top contenders and working his way toward a possible redemption, I'll very likely change my view of him. And since I'm dying for the heavyweight division to scrape itself off the bottom.... I'll cheer for anyone who can give a Klitschko (mostly Wlad) the competitive fight I've been so desperate to see.

As much as Haye disapointed everyone in that fight (i was as irritated by it as anyone) do you think there's anyone in the world with a better chance of beating Wlad than haye?

It's probable that one or two of these (giant) prospects might be able to give Wlad a good, competitive fight, and even hurt him. But the time it's taking to sort these out is unbearably frustrating. If it's not the Wilders of the division, doing their best Cesar Chavez Jr. imitations (fighting bums)..... it's the injuries and mysterious inactive spells. Then you get a promising fighter (Price) who stumbles out of the gate. I for one think he's not done by any means..... but then again he's buddies with Wlad and will never fight him, so what's the point?

As for the chances of Haye beating Wlad? I'm sorry to say that solely based on their one and only fight..... it's like the snowball's chance in hell. And don't lean on the size difference so much. It's not like it's the first time a small heavyweight has been in there with a large heavyweight. It's not the size of the body. It's the size of the heart.

[erics44]

It's probable that one or two of these (giant) prospects might be able to give Wlad a good, competitive fight, and even hurt him. But the time it's taking to sort these out is unbearably frustrating. If it's not the Wilders of the division, doing their best Cesar Chavez Jr. imitations (fighting bums)..... it's the injuries and mysterious inactive spells. Then you get a promising fighter (Price) who stumbles out of the gate. I for one think he's not done by any means..... but then again he's buddies with Wlad and will never fight him, so what's the point?

As for the chances of Haye beating Wlad? I'm sorry to say that solely based on their one and only fight..... it's like the snowball's chance in hell. And don't lean on the size difference so much. It's not like it's the first time a small heavyweight has been in there with a large heavyweight. It's not the size of the body. It's the size of the heart.

it sounds like we both want to see the same thing, and thats wlad in a fight

I agree Hayes chances are minimal although I think his performance isnt judged fairly because of the build up

you didnt really answer my question tho which suggests to me you agree, hayes minimal chances are the best weve got

i honestly think haye is the only man with the combination of skill speed and power to land the punch, i dont see wilder fury or price causing wlad much problems at all at the minute

pulev looks good and perhaps has the chance, he doesnt seem to be a big enough hitter tho, although do you need to be to put wlad away