What's funny with Larry Holmes reign as champion...

[brocktonblockbust]

Larry Holmes was 1 of the best heavyweights of all time. Definitely Top 10. Not Top 5 though. I place Larry about at #7 after Rocky, Cassius, Louis, Johnson, Holyfield, Lewis. I think only those 6 guys could really beat Larry. I say 1990 Holyfield outhustles and out-dogs Holmes---Evander was quicker and had a slightly better chin. Also prime Lennox woulda been real tough for Larry. Larry struggled with Cooney, so imagine with Lennox.

After that, I dont see anybody else beating him. He would whip Bowe, smoke Liston, whip Frazier (Larry only had a weakness for that right hand, he was never rocked by left hooks that I can remember), and yes he struggled with an old Norton, but remember Norton had that style to harrass guys like Ali and Holmes who fought backing up and countering for the most part. Norton was a counter-punching master, so had the perfect style for ali and Holmes.

I think Marciano smokes Norton in about 4 rounds.

Larry Holmes was a tough son of a bitch. Tougher than you realize. Competition may have been less-than-perfect---but do not short-change guys like Mike Weaver, Tim Witherspoon, Earnie Shavers, Gerry Cooney, Ken Norton, Carl Williams---these were dogged and dtermined fighters, big strong guys with plenty of KOs, and Larry had to dig deep to beat them.

Larry Holmes could take just about any punch he got hit with, just like Ali. What a chin Larry had. I have often said Holmes' chin was one of his best weapons. And heart. He refused to lose, out on his feet plenty of times, and boy did he suck it up, dig down deep, and dog it out. He was like a dog. Great fighter IMO. #7 All-Time Great Heavy.

Who whips Holmes besides the Top 6 I listed above? I dare you to say.

[TysonBomb]

Holmes is the deinfition of butthurt old man but he is top 5

[brocktonblockbust]

Holmes is the deinfition of butthurt old man but he is top 5

that butthurt shit is funny as hell. but yeah he does whine too much. wouldnt want to fight him though. He will dog you until you wanna cry. Piston left jab from Hell. Cant knock him out either except when he's 38 and fightin a prime Tyson 16 years his junior.

[ykdadamaja]

I think Holmes would stay away from Marciano all night and pepper him with the jab and then come back with a few stunning right hands, just to keep Marciano off of him and honest.

A Holmes/Marciano fight would go the distance, with Holmes winning a close unanimous decision. In a 12 rounder, scores like 116 to 114. In a 15 rounder, 145 to 143- Marciano may even score a knock down. But he won't win the points.

I think a prime Holmes (on US soil) would have won a very controversial fight against Lewis in his prime. It would be no KO, because Holmes wouldn't let Lewis get that close- and Holmes would back away from Lewis right hand.

Remember, Lewis hardly gave you combo's. Lewis may tag him once or twice during the fight, but then Holmes would suck it up and get on his bike for half a round and counter Lewis- and Lewis wouldn't be able to finish him off in the way a Tyson would have pounced on him.

I don't think Johnson had the skill to beat Holmes at any period. But I give you Louis, Cassius Clay and Holyfield. Holyfield would out-score him how he did in their actual fight- even though I could have scored that fight against an ageing Holmes for Holmes or at least a draw.

[brocktonblockbust]

I think Holmes would stay away from Marciano all night and pepper him with the jab and then come back with a few stunning right hands, just to keep Marciano off of him and honest.

A Holmes/Marciano fight would go the distance, with Holmes winning a close unanimous decision. In a 12 rounder, scores like 116 to 114. In a 15 rounder, 145 to 143- Marciano may even score a knock down. But he won't win the points.

I think a prime Holmes (on US soil) would have won a very controversial fight against Lewis in his prime. It would be no KO, because Holmes wouldn't let Lewis get that close- and Holmes would back away from Lewis right hand.

Remember, Lewis hardly gave you combo's. Lewis may tag him once or twice during the fight, but then Holmes would suck it up and get on his bike for half a round and counter Lewis- and Lewis wouldn't be able to finish him off in the way a Tyson would have pounced on him.

I don't think Johnson had the skill to beat Holmes at any period. But I give you Louis, Cassius Clay and Holyfield. Holyfield would out-score him how he did in their actual fight- even though I could have scored that fight against an ageing Holmes for Holmes or at least a draw.

HOLMES HAD A STUNNER OF A RIGHT BUT IT WAS NO SLEDGEHAMMER

MARCIANO WILL ALWAYS GO THE DISTANCE MY FRIEND, THERE IS NO DISTANCE TOO FAR

LEWIS DIDNT NEED COMBOS, HE RIPPED OFF VITALI'S FACE WITH ONE SHOT, ITS ENOUGH FOR HIS STYLE

JOHNSON COULD NOT BE BEAT--HE WAS A BITCH--HE WILL FUCK YOU UP PSYCHOLOGICALLY BEFORE YOU EVEN GLOVE-UP, HE WON THE FIGHT, HE IS JACK DOWNTOWN JOHNSON AND HE WILL TAKE YOU DOWNTOWN WITH HIS FUR-HAT AND DIAMOND RING AND FUCK YOU UP THE ASS UNTIL YOU LOVE HIM. BUT TYSON SAID WHAT JOHNSON WAS THINKING BUT NEVER SAID.

[ykdadamaja]

I think Holmes would stay away from Marciano all night and pepper him with the jab and then come back with a few stunning right hands, just to keep Marciano off of him and honest.

A Holmes/Marciano fight would go the distance, with Holmes winning a close unanimous decision. In a 12 rounder, scores like 116 to 114. In a 15 rounder, 145 to 143- Marciano may even score a knock down. But he won't win the points.

I think a prime Holmes (on US soil) would have won a very controversial fight against Lewis in his prime. It would be no KO, because Holmes wouldn't let Lewis get that close- and Holmes would back away from Lewis right hand.

Remember, Lewis hardly gave you combo's. Lewis may tag him once or twice during the fight, but then Holmes would suck it up and get on his bike for half a round and counter Lewis- and Lewis wouldn't be able to finish him off in the way a Tyson would have pounced on him.

I don't think Johnson had the skill to beat Holmes at any period. But I give you Louis, Cassius Clay and Holyfield. Holyfield would out-score him how he did in their actual fight- even though I could have scored that fight against an ageing Holmes for Holmes or at least a draw.

HOLMES HAD A STUNNER OF A RIGHT BUT IT WAS NO SLEDGEHAMMER

MARCIANO WILL ALWAYS GO THE DISTANCE MY FRIEND, THERE IS NO DISTANCE TOO FAR

LEWIS DIDNT NEED COMBOS, HE RIPPED OFF VITALI'S FACE WITH ONE SHOT, ITS ENOUGH FOR HIS STYLE

JOHNSON COULD NOT BE BEAT--HE WAS A BITCH--HE WILL FUCK YOU UP PSYCHOLOGICALLY BEFORE YOU EVEN GLOVE-UP, HE WON THE FIGHT, HE IS JACK DOWNTOWN JOHNSON AND HE WILL TAKE YOU DOWNTOWN WITH HIS FUR-HAT AND DIAMOND RING AND FUCK YOU UP THE ASS UNTIL YOU LOVE HIM. BUT TYSON SAID WHAT JOHNSON WAS THINKING BUT NEVER SAID.

I know Holmes didn't have bone-crushing power in the right hand, it was enough to dizzy you and stun you into backing off and not wanting more. Marciano would lunge forward with a few left hooks but wouldn't be able to touch Holmes with it to the point where he would get a ko.

Holmes would simply just out-score Marciano. Just like Walcott did before he got caught.

[brocktonblockbust]

may well be. may well be. Larry at 225 pounds, 6 foot 3, 63 inch reach---Rocco at 5 foot 10, 184 pounds, 67 inch reach.......hmmmmmmm