Donaire vs. Rigondeaux - Saturday night fight/chat thread

[Scott22]

I consider Rigo to be like baseballs Ichiro Suzuki. A superstar player in Japan who came to US and had instant success. Technically he was a rookie since it was his first year in the league. But everybody knew he was no rookie. What he was, was a superstar, future hall of famer. Rigo is not a young fighter who's raw and still has things to learn. What he is, is a really good fighter who is a legit threat to Donaire. He doesn't have many fights as a pro. But that doesn't matter. He's already the fighter he's gonna be. He's not still learning. His amateur career was a long one because he's Cuban. If not he would of turned pro a long time ago.

[Violent Demise]

I consider Rigo to be like baseballs Ichiro Suzuki. A superstar player in Japan who came to US and had instant success. Technically he was a rookie since it was his first year in the league. But everybody knew he was no rookie. What he was, was a superstar, future hall of famer. Rigo is not a young fighter who's raw and still has things to learn. What he is, is a really good fighter who is a legit threat to Donaire. He doesn't have many fights as a pro. But that doesn't matter. He's already the fighter he's gonna be. He's not still learning. His amateur career was a long one because he's Cuban. If not he would of turned pro a long time ago.

That's actually a pretty good fucking comparison. It's true. Rigondeaux is not the same as other 11-0 fighters. He's pretty much a vet in the sport of boxing

[ykdadamaja]

I really think this is going to come down to who gets off first and continually gets off first. So far Rigon has now shown me that he knows how to get off first- maybe he may surprise us this time around. He has a ways to go during training camp, so there is some time to work on his aggression.

But as it stands now, even if it comes down to who does more damage from their counter-punching, one would have to say that Donaire has proven he can not only counter-punch but also BE HIT and HIT BACK!!

Donaire by at least 8, maybe in 7, depending on if he starts off fast and times Rigon.

[ykdadamaja]

I consider Rigo to be like baseballs Ichiro Suzuki. A superstar player in Japan who came to US and had instant success. Technically he was a rookie since it was his first year in the league. But everybody knew he was no rookie. What he was, was a superstar, future hall of famer. Rigo is not a young fighter who's raw and still has things to learn. What he is, is a really good fighter who is a legit threat to Donaire. He doesn't have many fights as a pro. But that doesn't matter. He's already the fighter he's gonna be. He's not still learning. His amateur career was a long one because he's Cuban. If not he would of turned pro a long time ago.

Four rounds at the am's, even though it's a gold medal fight, still is no comparison to being in a real prize fight and the events leading up to it- the money that's on the line; the big lights come fight night; the crooked officials in and out of your camp who have the fight fixed as much as they can; fighting a top tier athelete who has been trained to go the distance with the same intensity and has proven that he can do such things; and knowing that a loss may send you back and you may never get a title shot OR a big-money fight in quite some time afterwards, or perhaps never again.

I don't see it the same as your Japanese analogy... jmo...

[Rantcatrat]

I'm surprised that so many are picking Donaire over Rigo. I'm not so sure. I favor Donaire based on experience and flash, but I have to wonder, would Rigo have lost to any of the guys Donaire beat?

[ykdadamaja]

I'm surprised that so many are picking Donaire over Rigo. I'm not so sure. I favor Donaire based on experience and flash, but I have to wonder, would Rigo have lost to any of the guys Donaire beat?

Probably to Arce and/or Darchiniyan, even Darch' today at his current age!

[TitoFan]

I'm surprised that so many are picking Donaire over Rigo. I'm not so sure. I favor Donaire based on experience and flash, but I have to wonder, would Rigo have lost to any of the guys Donaire beat?

I'm gonna turn this around and ask another question. Has Rigo fought even 1/10th the quality and "who's who" of opponents Donaire has faced and beaten.... as a pro? IMO, the answer is "no". I'm all up for seeing a good fight, which I'm sure we will. But having an 11-fight pro billed as an overnight sensation and a threat to someone arguably in the top 3 current p4p rankings, is slightly odd.

[Mars_ax]

I'm surprised that so many are picking Donaire over Rigo. I'm not so sure. I favor Donaire based on experience and flash, but I have to wonder, would Rigo have lost to any of the guys Donaire beat?

I'm gonna turn this around and ask another question. Has Rigo fought even 1/10th the quality and "who's who" of opponents Donaire has faced and beaten.... as a pro? IMO, the answer is "no". I'm all up for seeing a good fight, which I'm sure we will. But having an 11-fight pro billed as an overnight sensation and a threat to someone arguably in the top 3 current p4p rankings, is slightly odd.

The thing is Rigon might be better then his 11-0 record as a Pro would indicate, but I kind of doubt it. I haven't see anything in Rigon's 3 or 4 Pro fights that i've watched, against mediocre competition, that tells me he's on the same level as Donaire.

[THE THIRD MAN]

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Rigondeaux wins a decision here. Both Vic and Montiel were careless, Rigondeaux has been around a lot longer than his professional record indicates.
There is still something about Donaire that doesn't quite gel with me.

[bestjabwins]

There aren't 3 reasons he will flatten Rigondeux, only one - the left hook.

Can't decide who I reckon will win. From what I've seen Rigo is a better boxer on the outside. He has great sense of distance, very precise, and doesn't get tagged flush much. But he'll have to knock donaire out to win, because even if he outboxes donaire over 12 rounds, his cautious style probably means donaire is seen as pushing the action and so gets the nod from the judges.

If Donaire didn't have the big left hook, I'd come down off the fence onto Rigo's side. He probably won't get caught with it from a direct attack by Donaire, but I can see Rigo getting caught by a counter left hook when he throws his own left to the body and leaves his face hanging out unprotected (like donaire's ko of darchinyan).

[beenKOed]

Can't wait, can't wait, if this fight doesn't go the way I think it will, it will be a bigger surprise, to me, than the the way the last Marquez vs Pacquiao fight finished.

[Silkeyjoe]

I'm surprised that so many are picking Donaire over Rigo. I'm not so sure. I favor Donaire based on experience and flash, but I have to wonder, would Rigo have lost to any of the guys Donaire beat?

I'm gonna turn this around and ask another question. Has Rigo fought even 1/10th the quality and "who's who" of opponents Donaire has faced and beaten.... as a pro? IMO, the answer is "no". I'm all up for seeing a good fight, which I'm sure we will. But having an 11-fight pro billed as an overnight sensation and a threat to someone arguably in the top 3 current p4p rankings, is slightly odd.

Cordoba was a very good fighter. Ramos was supposed to be good

[Silkeyjoe]

People here seem pretty clueless about how much skills transfer from Amateur to pro boxing, hence why most of the best ever pros have had good amateur careers. Considering that Rigondeaux is in my opinion the best amateur boxer ever I think he will give anyone in the pros a good fight.

Im picking Donaire to win this by KO but I would not be suprised if Rigo won. He is the best counter puncher i have seen in a long time and if he connects a few big shots early Donaire could start getting scared to throw.

Another thing i find strange with comments here is talking of level of opponents. Donaire hasnt fought that many brilliant fighters. Arce, Nishioka, Mathubela, Montiel are all good fighters but none i would consider great. Vasquez just got beaten by an unknown Jap who had heart but was nothing special. I think Rigo would beat any of these fighters too.

I dont care who wins and just hope its a great fight

[Master]

The way Donaire has beaten his opponents and fighting so frequently I think he is the best fighter 2012.

[Mars_ax]

People here seem pretty clueless about how much skills transfer from Amateur to pro boxing, hence why most of the best ever pros have had good amateur careers. Considering that Rigondeaux is in my opinion the best amateur boxer ever I think he will give anyone in the pros a good fight.

Im picking Donaire to win this by KO but I would not be suprised if Rigo won. He is the best counter puncher i have seen in a long time and if he connects a few big shots early Donaire could start getting scared to throw.

Another thing i find strange with comments here is talking of level of opponents. Donaire hasnt fought that many brilliant fighters. Arce, Nishioka, Mathubela, Montiel are all good fighters but none i would consider great. Vasquez just got beaten by an unknown Jap who had heart but was nothing special. I think Rigo would beat any of these fighters too.

I dont care who wins and just hope its a great fight

@Silkeyjoe -Right, just in case Rigon wins, that way you won't have to eat as much crow.

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