Do you think Floyd Mayweather Jr. will retire undefeated?

[imp]

As someone mentioned before, if floyd moves up to fight at 154 the risk is intensified.

Floyd has nothing to prove at 154 and he is at a major diadvantage at that weight.

Martinez, canelo and trout need to grow some balls and create their own legacy by moving up in weight themselves and getting in the andre ward mix or fighting each other.

Obviously, everyone wants to fight mayweather as the money involved will be the biggest payday of their career, but these guys need to start creating some type of hype and ppv status about themselves and stop using floyds name.

[bradlee180]

Retire undefeated, you must be a younger fella, or on drugs like floyd senior and uncle roger maywetaher...

lil floid will close out his career in about 10 years time from now with a $#!tload of losses on his record against lower-level competition, and with a couple more short prison stints to boot.
He's gonna do like Roy Jones did which is to fight mostly 2nd tier guys during his prime, and after his prime is gone, then start fighting the tough guys that people had wanted him to fight all along, except now it's too late and he gets his @$$ whupped all the time. He should've taken the tough fights during his prime when he probably would've won them.

[bradlee180]

bradguy sees the future, and I know the truth about Boxing...

[imp]

bradguy sees the future, and I know the truth about Boxing...

Thats why your ignored.

[Dia bando]

Them defensive skills don't last for ever, Floyd will visit the well one day guess what no water,!
it will happen why because Floyd s love of MONEY.

[Peter Som]

What can I add to this? Hm.

Well, from the outside it seems like Floyd Jr. has put himself in a rut commonly occurring with boxers who enjoy great success: all of a sudden, everyone in your immediate (and most times non immediate) family depends on you to live. They are literally sucking off the now many tits of your success.

We all know Floyd Jr. is known for his extravagance and he makes no claim to the contrary. That alone has put many boxers in the hole. But I'm gonna go so far as to say that Floyd is a lot more frugal than we perceive. But that's just an educated guess.

I only see Floyd Jr. being beat in 2 ways: 1) he's just too old 2) the burden of this co dependence of his family to which they also demand an equally extravagant lifestyle to Floyd Jr. in which they have no way to sustain themselves. Which would lead him to fight on when he really shouldn't.

His skills are unmatched. Not theoretically either, or up for debate between pundits. Mathematically you can see that Floyd Jr.'s skills are way beyond anyone else's even now. He trains like no other, and he wins like no other. Period.

[bradlee180]

Thats why your ignored.

Get lil floid's lil wizened raisin ballies out of your mouth, son....

[bradlee180]

That's why you're ignored.

[Rantcatrat]

As someone mentioned before, if floyd moves up to fight at 154 the risk is intensified.

Floyd has nothing to prove at 154 and he is at a major diadvantage at that weight.

Martinez, canelo and trout need to grow some balls and create their own legacy by moving up in weight themselves and getting in the andre ward mix or fighting each other.

Obviously, everyone wants to fight mayweather as the money involved will be the biggest payday of their career, but these guys need to start creating some type of hype and ppv status about themselves and stop using floyds name.

I can't recall if you have ever answered this question, but if Floyd fought Cotto and De La Hoya at 154, why wouldn't he fight Trout, Canelo, and Martinez at 154? Moreover, if we are talking legacy, don't wins over those guys do more for Floyd's legacy than wins over Robert Guerrero and Devon Alexander?

[imp]

As someone mentioned before, if floyd moves up to fight at 154 the risk is intensified.

Floyd has nothing to prove at 154 and he is at a major diadvantage at that weight.

Martinez, canelo and trout need to grow some balls and create their own legacy by moving up in weight themselves and getting in the andre ward mix or fighting each other.

Obviously, everyone wants to fight mayweather as the money involved will be the biggest payday of their career, but these guys need to start creating some type of hype and ppv status about themselves and stop using floyds name.

I can't recall if you have ever answered this question, but if Floyd fought Cotto and De La Hoya at 154, why wouldn't he fight Trout, Canelo, and Martinez at 154? Moreover, if we are talking legacy, don't wins over those guys do more for Floyd's legacy than wins over Robert Guerrero and Devon Alexander?

I cant see the martinez fight happening due to the hbo/showtime clash.

Trout and canelo are possible but i dont see canelo beating trout which would make the most money.

I would like to see floyd fight bradley next but i cant see floyd fighting a top rank fighter.

I think floyds legacy is already written.
but for some reason some feel he needs to be in a tough fight where he gets a bit more bloodied up, or perhaps knocked down again to prove he has lived up to this rocky style moment of struggle and heart.

Floyd has had tough fights and because he gets out of them without no real injuries or visible damage is more of a compliment to his skills.

Like when a pre ruiz-roy jones dominated everyone and made james toney and hopkins two of his easiest fights there really is no difference in the way they both dominate their opponents.

The only way floyd gets a loss is if he beats himself by just mentally not having it anymore or suddenly instantly getting old in the ring.

Someone mentioned khan as a future opponent but khan has garcia and peterson to get through first and that wont be easy.

Plus. Robert Guerrero has achieved far more than canelo has.

[IamInuit]

As someone mentioned before, if floyd moves up to fight at 154 the risk is intensified.

Floyd has nothing to prove at 154 and he is at a major diadvantage at that weight.

Martinez, canelo and trout need to grow some balls and create their own legacy by moving up in weight themselves and getting in the andre ward mix or fighting each other.

Obviously, everyone wants to fight mayweather as the money involved will be the biggest payday of their career, but these guys need to start creating some type of hype and ppv status about themselves and stop using floyds name.

I can't recall if you have ever answered this question, but if Floyd fought Cotto and De La Hoya at 154, why wouldn't he fight Trout, Canelo, and Martinez at 154? Moreover, if we are talking legacy, don't wins over those guys do more for Floyd's legacy than wins over Robert Guerrero and Devon Alexander?

I think those guys are just to big although I think he turns Alvarez into a human pin cushion. Welter was probably Oscars best weight or arguably 135 and Cotto's was 147. Trout is a big jr middle probably a weight class out of where he should be. I don't think Floyd would take the Martinez fight at 154 or a catch. To big an ego and should he win he would be burnt at the stake for making Martinez comedown even if Martinez once again offered to. He would get credit for beating a weakened Martinez and expected to meet him at 160.

[Rantcatrat]

As someone mentioned before, if floyd moves up to fight at 154 the risk is intensified.

Floyd has nothing to prove at 154 and he is at a major diadvantage at that weight.

Martinez, canelo and trout need to grow some balls and create their own legacy by moving up in weight themselves and getting in the andre ward mix or fighting each other.

Obviously, everyone wants to fight mayweather as the money involved will be the biggest payday of their career, but these guys need to start creating some type of hype and ppv status about themselves and stop using floyds name.

I can't recall if you have ever answered this question, but if Floyd fought Cotto and De La Hoya at 154, why wouldn't he fight Trout, Canelo, and Martinez at 154? Moreover, if we are talking legacy, don't wins over those guys do more for Floyd's legacy than wins over Robert Guerrero and Devon Alexander?

I think those guys are just to big although I think he turns Alvarez into a human pin cushion. Welter was probably Oscars best weight or arguably 135 and Cotto's was 147. Trout is a big jr middle probably a weight class out of where he should be. I don't think Floyd would take the Martinez fight at 154 or a catch. To big an ego and should he win he would be burnt at the stake for making Martinez comedown even if Martinez once again offered to. He would get credit for beating a weakened Martinez and expected to meet him at 160.

As far as legacy-defining though, a win over Trout, Canelo or Martinez does more for him than wins over Guerrero or Alexander. I stand by that. Welter was Oscar's best weight, but he fought as high as 160, and Floyd legitimately fought him at 154. If the point is that fighting Cotto and Oscar at 154 is not as impressive (or the same) as fighting a natural junior middlweight, I see your point to an extent, but it decreases the quality of tho wins over Oscar and Cotto then, if he didn't face them at their best weights.

[IamInuit]

As someone mentioned before, if floyd moves up to fight at 154 the risk is intensified.

Floyd has nothing to prove at 154 and he is at a major diadvantage at that weight.

Martinez, canelo and trout need to grow some balls and create their own legacy by moving up in weight themselves and getting in the andre ward mix or fighting each other.

Obviously, everyone wants to fight mayweather as the money involved will be the biggest payday of their career, but these guys need to start creating some type of hype and ppv status about themselves and stop using floyds name.

I can't recall if you have ever answered this question, but if Floyd fought Cotto and De La Hoya at 154, why wouldn't he fight Trout, Canelo, and Martinez at 154? Moreover, if we are talking legacy, don't wins over those guys do more for Floyd's legacy than wins over Robert Guerrero and Devon Alexander?

I think those guys are just to big although I think he turns Alvarez into a human pin cushion. Welter was probably Oscars best weight or arguably 135 and Cotto's was 147. Trout is a big jr middle probably a weight class out of where he should be. I don't think Floyd would take the Martinez fight at 154 or a catch. To big an ego and should he win he would be burnt at the stake for making Martinez comedown even if Martinez once again offered to. He would get credit for beating a weakened Martinez and expected to meet him at 160.

As far as legacy-defining though, a win over Trout, Canelo or Martinez does more for him than wins over Guerrero or Alexander. I stand by that. Welter was Oscar's best weight, but he fought as high as 160, and Floyd legitimately fought him at 154. If the point is that fighting Cotto and Oscar at 154 is not as impressive (or the same) as fighting a natural junior middlweight, I see your point to an extent, but it decreases the quality of tho wins over Oscar and Cotto then, if he didn't face them at their best weights.

Totally agree Rant.

"Show me a fighter whose undefeated and I'll show you a fighter who hasn't fought anybody." --Whitey Bimstein