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    Default Re: Do you think Floyd Mayweather Jr. will retire undefeated?

    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    As someone mentioned before, if floyd moves up to fight at 154 the risk is intensified.

    Floyd has nothing to prove at 154 and he is at a major diadvantage at that weight.

    Martinez, canelo and trout need to grow some balls and create their own legacy by moving up in weight themselves and getting in the andre ward mix or fighting each other.

    Obviously, everyone wants to fight mayweather as the money involved will be the biggest payday of their career, but these guys need to start creating some type of hype and ppv status about themselves and stop using floyds name.
    I can't recall if you have ever answered this question, but if Floyd fought Cotto and De La Hoya at 154, why wouldn't he fight Trout, Canelo, and Martinez at 154? Moreover, if we are talking legacy, don't wins over those guys do more for Floyd's legacy than wins over Robert Guerrero and Devon Alexander?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    As someone mentioned before, if floyd moves up to fight at 154 the risk is intensified.

    Floyd has nothing to prove at 154 and he is at a major diadvantage at that weight.

    Martinez, canelo and trout need to grow some balls and create their own legacy by moving up in weight themselves and getting in the andre ward mix or fighting each other.

    Obviously, everyone wants to fight mayweather as the money involved will be the biggest payday of their career, but these guys need to start creating some type of hype and ppv status about themselves and stop using floyds name.
    I can't recall if you have ever answered this question, but if Floyd fought Cotto and De La Hoya at 154, why wouldn't he fight Trout, Canelo, and Martinez at 154? Moreover, if we are talking legacy, don't wins over those guys do more for Floyd's legacy than wins over Robert Guerrero and Devon Alexander?
    I cant see the martinez fight happening due to the hbo/showtime clash.

    Trout and canelo are possible but i dont see canelo beating trout which would make the most money.

    I would like to see floyd fight bradley next but i cant see floyd fighting a top rank fighter.

    I think floyds legacy is already written.
    but for some reason some feel he needs to be in a tough fight where he gets a bit more bloodied up, or perhaps knocked down again to prove he has lived up to this rocky style moment of struggle and heart.

    Floyd has had tough fights and because he gets out of them without no real injuries or visible damage is more of a compliment to his skills.

    Like when a pre ruiz-roy jones dominated everyone and made james toney and hopkins two of his easiest fights there really is no difference in the way they both dominate their opponents.

    The only way floyd gets a loss is if he beats himself by just mentally not having it anymore or suddenly instantly getting old in the ring.

    Someone mentioned khan as a future opponent but khan has garcia and peterson to get through first and that wont be easy.

    Plus. Robert Guerrero has achieved far more than canelo has.
    Last edited by imp; 04-11-2013 at 09:05 PM.

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    Default Re: Do you think Floyd Mayweather Jr. will retire undefeated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    As someone mentioned before, if floyd moves up to fight at 154 the risk is intensified.

    Floyd has nothing to prove at 154 and he is at a major diadvantage at that weight.

    Martinez, canelo and trout need to grow some balls and create their own legacy by moving up in weight themselves and getting in the andre ward mix or fighting each other.

    Obviously, everyone wants to fight mayweather as the money involved will be the biggest payday of their career, but these guys need to start creating some type of hype and ppv status about themselves and stop using floyds name.
    I can't recall if you have ever answered this question, but if Floyd fought Cotto and De La Hoya at 154, why wouldn't he fight Trout, Canelo, and Martinez at 154? Moreover, if we are talking legacy, don't wins over those guys do more for Floyd's legacy than wins over Robert Guerrero and Devon Alexander?
    I think those guys are just to big although I think he turns Alvarez into a human pin cushion. Welter was probably Oscars best weight or arguably 135 and Cotto's was 147. Trout is a big jr middle probably a weight class out of where he should be. I don't think Floyd would take the Martinez fight at 154 or a catch. To big an ego and should he win he would be burnt at the stake for making Martinez comedown even if Martinez once again offered to. He would get credit for beating a weakened Martinez and expected to meet him at 160.

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    Default Re: Do you think Floyd Mayweather Jr. will retire undefeated?

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    As someone mentioned before, if floyd moves up to fight at 154 the risk is intensified.

    Floyd has nothing to prove at 154 and he is at a major diadvantage at that weight.

    Martinez, canelo and trout need to grow some balls and create their own legacy by moving up in weight themselves and getting in the andre ward mix or fighting each other.

    Obviously, everyone wants to fight mayweather as the money involved will be the biggest payday of their career, but these guys need to start creating some type of hype and ppv status about themselves and stop using floyds name.
    I can't recall if you have ever answered this question, but if Floyd fought Cotto and De La Hoya at 154, why wouldn't he fight Trout, Canelo, and Martinez at 154? Moreover, if we are talking legacy, don't wins over those guys do more for Floyd's legacy than wins over Robert Guerrero and Devon Alexander?
    I think those guys are just to big although I think he turns Alvarez into a human pin cushion. Welter was probably Oscars best weight or arguably 135 and Cotto's was 147. Trout is a big jr middle probably a weight class out of where he should be. I don't think Floyd would take the Martinez fight at 154 or a catch. To big an ego and should he win he would be burnt at the stake for making Martinez comedown even if Martinez once again offered to. He would get credit for beating a weakened Martinez and expected to meet him at 160.
    As far as legacy-defining though, a win over Trout, Canelo or Martinez does more for him than wins over Guerrero or Alexander. I stand by that. Welter was Oscar's best weight, but he fought as high as 160, and Floyd legitimately fought him at 154. If the point is that fighting Cotto and Oscar at 154 is not as impressive (or the same) as fighting a natural junior middlweight, I see your point to an extent, but it decreases the quality of tho wins over Oscar and Cotto then, if he didn't face them at their best weights.

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    Default Re: Do you think Floyd Mayweather Jr. will retire undefeated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    As someone mentioned before, if floyd moves up to fight at 154 the risk is intensified.

    Floyd has nothing to prove at 154 and he is at a major diadvantage at that weight.

    Martinez, canelo and trout need to grow some balls and create their own legacy by moving up in weight themselves and getting in the andre ward mix or fighting each other.

    Obviously, everyone wants to fight mayweather as the money involved will be the biggest payday of their career, but these guys need to start creating some type of hype and ppv status about themselves and stop using floyds name.
    I can't recall if you have ever answered this question, but if Floyd fought Cotto and De La Hoya at 154, why wouldn't he fight Trout, Canelo, and Martinez at 154? Moreover, if we are talking legacy, don't wins over those guys do more for Floyd's legacy than wins over Robert Guerrero and Devon Alexander?
    I think those guys are just to big although I think he turns Alvarez into a human pin cushion. Welter was probably Oscars best weight or arguably 135 and Cotto's was 147. Trout is a big jr middle probably a weight class out of where he should be. I don't think Floyd would take the Martinez fight at 154 or a catch. To big an ego and should he win he would be burnt at the stake for making Martinez comedown even if Martinez once again offered to. He would get credit for beating a weakened Martinez and expected to meet him at 160.
    As far as legacy-defining though, a win over Trout, Canelo or Martinez does more for him than wins over Guerrero or Alexander. I stand by that. Welter was Oscar's best weight, but he fought as high as 160, and Floyd legitimately fought him at 154. If the point is that fighting Cotto and Oscar at 154 is not as impressive (or the same) as fighting a natural junior middlweight, I see your point to an extent, but it decreases the quality of tho wins over Oscar and Cotto then, if he didn't face them at their best weights.
    Totally agree Rant.

    "Show me a fighter whose undefeated and I'll show you a fighter who hasn't fought anybody." --Whitey Bimstein

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