I LIKE Tyson Fury- but Arreola, Jennings and/or Wilder STARCHES HIM!

[gest12645]

Jennings is way overated- Fury Ko's him
Arreola is a 50/50 fight imo
Wilder is still very untested but from what i've seen , I think he Ko's Fury

[beenKOed]

Jennings is way overated- Fury Ko's him
Arreola is a 50/50 fight imo
Wilder is still very untested but from what i've seen , I think he Ko's Fury

I agree! Fury has to stay behind his jab more, losing focus or rushing in without the jab is a big no-no with the big punchers.
Fury has to stop using the forearm. If he fights in the US anymore, his forearm will get a lot of attention.
I'm still not sold on Wilder, but he seems to be taking bigger baby steps with Audley.

[scribbs]

Sad state the heavy division is in when he's in the top ten, piss poor fighter who wouldn't have been anywhere near the top ten in the 90's.

A light punching blown up cruiser puts him on his arse, put him in with Wlad or Vit now & get it over with. Haye would give him a good chinning also but the rest of this division is sub par at best imo.

[ross]

Sad state the heavy division is in when he's in the top ten, piss poor fighter who wouldn't have been anywhere near the top ten in the 90's.

A light punching blown up cruiser puts him on his arse, put him in with Wlad or Vit now & get it over with. Haye would give him a good chinning also but the rest of this division is sub par at best imo.

At the same stage of his career Ali had been dropped by Sonny Banks 191lb and Henry Cooper 185lb Then even when he had won the title he was dropped by Joe Frazier 205lb

All smaller men than Cunningham. Does this make Alis chin shit? In fact had the little bitches from here been around back then what would you have said about Cassius Clay, knocked down by 2 small men and getting a gift decision against Doug Jones?

[El Kabong]

Sad state the heavy division is in when he's in the top ten, piss poor fighter who wouldn't have been anywhere near the top ten in the 90's.

A light punching blown up cruiser puts him on his arse, put him in with Wlad or Vit now & get it over with. Haye would give him a good chinning also but the rest of this division is sub par at best imo.

At the same stage of his career Ali had been dropped by Sonny Banks 191lb and Henry Cooper 185lb Then even when he had won the title he was dropped by Joe Frazier 205lb

All smaller men than Cunningham. Does this make Alis chin shit? In fact had the little bitches from here been around back then what would you have said about Cassius Clay, knocked down by 2 small men and getting a gift decision against Doug Jones?

Unlike Tyson Fury, Ali learned from his mistakes and added depth to his style....Tyson Fury is just a big dumb oaf of a fighter and a true boxer will hammer the dog shit out of him.

[scribbs]

Sad state the heavy division is in when he's in the top ten, piss poor fighter who wouldn't have been anywhere near the top ten in the 90's.

A light punching blown up cruiser puts him on his arse, put him in with Wlad or Vit now & get it over with. Haye would give him a good chinning also but the rest of this division is sub par at best imo.

At the same stage of his career Ali had been dropped by Sonny Banks 191lb and Henry Cooper 185lb Then even when he had won the title he was dropped by Joe Frazier 205lb

All smaller men than Cunningham. Does this make Alis chin shit? In fact had the little bitches from here been around back then what would you have said about Cassius Clay, knocked down by 2 small men and getting a gift decision against Doug Jones?

So you are equating Tyson Fury with Muhammad Ali? That's really a fucked up viewpoint. I wasn't born when Clay/Ali was fighting in the 60's & this is one thing I will not do, try to predict history. I don't even do top 10 lists, h2h or p4p debates as they are fucking pointless (used to, but just waste's time that could be spent doing proper things, so don't now) but each to their own.

I'm not a fan of Fury although he's improve some from his early days but most fighters do. I don't know if you are from UK (I am) or elsewhere but I've seen enough of him over numerous fights to know he's a piss poor fighter who's taken his size & reasonable power to get by in a era when the heavyweights are dire.

Cunningham was decent cruiser but can you really say he has genuine heavyweight power, not for me. Fury has been rocked numerous times but his gangly size seems to get him by. Like I stated I would get him in with the Klit Bros or Haye & show him for what he is a hype job. Anyone decent with genuine power will beat him inside the distance.

I will say one thing, although he is awful he can be entertaining in fights in freak show way. That's just my take, maybe I'll be proved wrong but I doubt it.

[El Kabong]

If Valuev unretired I think that would be a freak show fight and almost a 50-50 match too. I'd pick Fury by TKO 8.


Jennings has a reasonable chance to stop Fury. Huck could give Fury Hell as could Adamek.


Haye should fight him!

[ross]

Sad state the heavy division is in when he's in the top ten, piss poor fighter who wouldn't have been anywhere near the top ten in the 90's.

A light punching blown up cruiser puts him on his arse, put him in with Wlad or Vit now & get it over with. Haye would give him a good chinning also but the rest of this division is sub par at best imo.

At the same stage of his career Ali had been dropped by Sonny Banks 191lb and Henry Cooper 185lb Then even when he had won the title he was dropped by Joe Frazier 205lb

All smaller men than Cunningham. Does this make Alis chin shit? In fact had the little bitches from here been around back then what would you have said about Cassius Clay, knocked down by 2 small men and getting a gift decision against Doug Jones?

So you are equating Tyson Fury with Muhammad Ali? That's really a fucked up viewpoint. I wasn't born when Clay/Ali was fighting in the 60's & this is one thing I will not do, try to predict history. I don't even do top 10 lists, h2h or p4p debates as they are fucking pointless (used to, but just waste's time that could be spent doing proper things, so don't now) but each to their own.

I'm not a fan of Fury although he's improve some from his early days but most fighters do. I don't know if you are from UK (I am) or elsewhere but I've seen enough of him over numerous fights to know he's a piss poor fighter who's taken his size & reasonable power to get by in a era when the heavyweights are dire.

Cunningham was decent cruiser but can you really say he has genuine heavyweight power, not for me. Fury has been rocked numerous times but his gangly size seems to get him by. Like I stated I would get him in with the Klit Bros or Haye & show him for what he is a hype job. Anyone decent with genuine power will beat him inside the distance.

I will say one thing, although he is awful he can be entertaining in fights in freak show way. That's just my take, maybe I'll be proved wrong but I doubt it.

Hold on...

Cunningham doesnt have genuine heavyweight power?

Would you say a 185lb Henry Copper had real heavyweight power?

Or Joe Frazier who weighed 205lb (5lb less than a ripped Cunningham) had real heavyweight power? If Frazier fought today hed be in the cruiser division, just having to lose 5lb and he knocked down an undefeated Ali.

In the 70's, Cunningham wouldnt have had a cruiser division and would have been a heavyweight and he would have been regarded as a big heavyweight too. How many heavyweights back then were as ripped as he was at 210lb?

[scribbs]

Sad state the heavy division is in when he's in the top ten, piss poor fighter who wouldn't have been anywhere near the top ten in the 90's.

A light punching blown up cruiser puts him on his arse, put him in with Wlad or Vit now & get it over with. Haye would give him a good chinning also but the rest of this division is sub par at best imo.

At the same stage of his career Ali had been dropped by Sonny Banks 191lb and Henry Cooper 185lb Then even when he had won the title he was dropped by Joe Frazier 205lb

All smaller men than Cunningham. Does this make Alis chin shit? In fact had the little bitches from here been around back then what would you have said about Cassius Clay, knocked down by 2 small men and getting a gift decision against Doug Jones?

So you are equating Tyson Fury with Muhammad Ali? That's really a fucked up viewpoint. I wasn't born when Clay/Ali was fighting in the 60's & this is one thing I will not do, try to predict history. I don't even do top 10 lists, h2h or p4p debates as they are fucking pointless (used to, but just waste's time that could be spent doing proper things, so don't now) but each to their own.

I'm not a fan of Fury although he's improve some from his early days but most fighters do. I don't know if you are from UK (I am) or elsewhere but I've seen enough of him over numerous fights to know he's a piss poor fighter who's taken his size & reasonable power to get by in a era when the heavyweights are dire.

Cunningham was decent cruiser but can you really say he has genuine heavyweight power, not for me. Fury has been rocked numerous times but his gangly size seems to get him by. Like I stated I would get him in with the Klit Bros or Haye & show him for what he is a hype job. Anyone decent with genuine power will beat him inside the distance.

I will say one thing, although he is awful he can be entertaining in fights in freak show way. That's just my take, maybe I'll be proved wrong but I doubt it.

Hold on...

Cunningham doesnt have genuine heavyweight power?

Would you say a 185lb Henry Copper had real heavyweight power?

Or Joe Frazier who weighed 205lb (5lb less than a ripped Cunningham) had real heavyweight power? If Frazier fought today hed be in the cruiser division, just having to lose 5lb and he knocked down an undefeated Ali.

In the 70's, Cunningham wouldnt have had a cruiser division and would have been a heavyweight and he would have been regarded as a big heavyweight too. How many heavyweights back then were as ripped as he was at 210lb?

Yeah, Cooper & Frazier had Heavyweight power because they were heavyweights, as you stated there was no cruiser as that time. Many old heavy's would be at cruiser nowadays but I'm a traditionalist so would go back to 8 divisions so the cruiserweight division would be redundant.

Cunningham is modern fighter so was able to fight in the cruiser division, I can't debate about if he was in the 70's because he wasn't. Ok, I made an assumption about Fury in the 90's which went against the grain of what I normally do but I lived through the 90's & the heavy's of that period were arguably the second deepest in terms of quality after the 70's.

Steve has a 38.71% KO ratio but if you look at his record he scored more decisions against top graders than KO's with the exception of Huck who was stopped in the 12th & Ross (who beat Hernandez imo) by genuine KO. I like Steve as a fighter but he's not really a banger tbh.

I just think Fury has come along at a time when the division is at it's weakest, arguably the worst ever, his size makes him awkward & reasonable power will see him through fights, but against quality opposition (not a lot at moment) he's going to struggle because his chin is not great. Basically I've not bought into the hype!

[Dark Lord Al]

Sad state the heavy division is in when he's in the top ten, piss poor fighter who wouldn't have been anywhere near the top ten in the 90's.

A light punching blown up cruiser puts him on his arse, put him in with Wlad or Vit now & get it over with. Haye would give him a good chinning also but the rest of this division is sub par at best imo.

At the same stage of his career Ali had been dropped by Sonny Banks 191lb and Henry Cooper 185lb Then even when he had won the title he was dropped by Joe Frazier 205lb

All smaller men than Cunningham. Does this make Alis chin shit? In fact had the little bitches from here been around back then what would you have said about Cassius Clay, knocked down by 2 small men and getting a gift decision against Doug Jones?

So you are equating Tyson Fury with Muhammad Ali? That's really a fucked up viewpoint. I wasn't born when Clay/Ali was fighting in the 60's & this is one thing I will not do, try to predict history. I don't even do top 10 lists, h2h or p4p debates as they are fucking pointless (used to, but just waste's time that could be spent doing proper things, so don't now) but each to their own.

I'm not a fan of Fury although he's improve some from his early days but most fighters do. I don't know if you are from UK (I am) or elsewhere but I've seen enough of him over numerous fights to know he's a piss poor fighter who's taken his size & reasonable power to get by in a era when the heavyweights are dire.

Cunningham was decent cruiser but can you really say he has genuine heavyweight power, not for me. Fury has been rocked numerous times but his gangly size seems to get him by. Like I stated I would get him in with the Klit Bros or Haye & show him for what he is a hype job. Anyone decent with genuine power will beat him inside the distance.

I will say one thing, although he is awful he can be entertaining in fights in freak show way. That's just my take, maybe I'll be proved wrong but I doubt it.

Hold on...

Cunningham doesnt have genuine heavyweight power?

Would you say a 185lb Henry Copper had real heavyweight power?

Or Joe Frazier who weighed 205lb (5lb less than a ripped Cunningham) had real heavyweight power? If Frazier fought today hed be in the cruiser division, just having to lose 5lb and he knocked down an undefeated Ali.

In the 70's, Cunningham wouldnt have had a cruiser division and would have been a heavyweight and he would have been regarded as a big heavyweight too. How many heavyweights back then were as ripped as he was at 210lb?

This small HW with not much power dropped a 6'9 Fury , the fact is, to anyone on here who isnt either called fury , or isnt bumming him , he got floored by a light puncher.
So lets see him get in with a big puncher at HW , fury going down doesnt mean Cunnigham was a puncher , is reflects the fact fury has a dodgy chin.

[ykdadamaja]

Jennings is way overated- Fury Ko's him
Arreola is a 50/50 fight imo
Wilder is still very untested but from what i've seen , I think he Ko's Fury

I agree! Fury has to stay behind his jab more, losing focus or rushing in without the jab is a big no-no with the big punchers.
Fury has to stop using the forearm. If he fights in the US anymore, his forearm will get a lot of attention.
I'm still not sold on Wilder, but he seems to be taking bigger baby steps with Audley.

You guys have never reall SEEN Jennings fight. Sure, he doesn't have bone-crushing power. But he can take a punch- more than what Fury can dish out. Plus, and a BIG PLUS, he can throw punches in bunches and move all night- he has more stamina than Cunningham ever could have.

Fury won't get close to Jennings. And by the time Jennings swarms him and moves away, Fury may get in one good shot out of the 3-5 he may try to throw. But it won't be enough sustained pressure to back Jennings down.

Jennings will beat Fury in a lop-sided decision if they ever fought. Mark my word!

[El Kabong]

I want to see Jennings fight a guy that is significantly bigger than he is. Jennings has fast hands, decent pop, and he boxes well plus he's light on his feet so he's harder to find than most heavyweights. Fury seems to be like a baby Great Dane, he's just gangly and goofy and one of these days he'll walk himself into a situation where only bad things will happen to him. Guys like Fury should be more methodical in their approach......Manny Steward could have really helped him, but now I don't think anyone can.

[ykdadamaja]

I want to see Jennings fight a guy that is significantly bigger than he is. Jennings has fast hands, decent pop, and he boxes well plus he's light on his feet so he's harder to find than most heavyweights. Fury seems to be like a baby Great Dane, he's just gangly and goofy and one of these days he'll walk himself into a situation where only bad things will happen to him. Guys like Fury should be more methodical in their approach......Manny Steward could have really helped him, but now I don't think anyone can.

But that gangly goof wins... lololol....