I LIKE Tyson Fury- but Arreola, Jennings and/or Wilder STARCHES HIM!

[Dark Lord Al]

You are a thick cunt and an ugly sulky one to boot. Just fuck off.

Fury got dropepd by a 110lb world class fighter. Ali got dropped by a 185lb british champ. Which is worse?

I would ay that is worse.

[ross]

You are a thick cunt and an ugly sulky one to boot. Just fuck off.

Fury got dropepd by a 110lb world class fighter. Ali got dropped by a 185lb british champ. Which is worse?

I would ay that is worse.

Ok yes that would be worse

Fact of the matter is Henry Cooper who was never world class nearly Put Alis lights out, he was gone! He had to have the interval lengthened to recuperate against a 185lb british level fighter.
Fury got dropped by a 210lb fighter who is world class and was world champ and got up and continued to fight through the same round. If the round hadnt ebded when it did for Ali, he would have had a loss.

[Dark Lord Al]

Just to further piss on stupid theory ,
Clay was 22lbs heavier than Cooper , Fury was 44lbs heavier than Cunningham.

Clay was 6'3 Cooper was 6'1

Fury is 6'9 Cunningham was 6'2

which is the bigger advantage ?

[ross]

Cooper was never world class.

Fury cant help the size he is, he can only fight other heavies that are willing to fight him.

[El Kabong]

Fury is now primed for a loss. I think it would be very interesting if he fought Stiverne who can bang with the best of them.

[El Kabong]

Cunningham landed cleanly and if he had ANY power Fury never would have gotten back up

[El Kabong]

That was probably as hard as Cunningham could punch and just about as clean as he could land. If that's Price, Arreola, Stiverne, Povetkin (maybe), Haye, Wilder, Jennings, Pulev, Helenius, even Seth Mitchell, or any other true heavyweight with any bit of power, then Tyson Fury gets a 1 in the Loss column.

Tyson Fury is a fighter, he's gutsy, but he's not smart and that will catch up to him quickly

[Vendettos]

That was probably as hard as Cunningham could punch and just about as clean as he could land. If that's Price, Arreola, Stiverne, Povetkin (maybe), Haye, Wilder, Jennings, Pulev, Helenius, even Seth Mitchell, or any other true heavyweight with any bit of power, then Tyson Fury gets a 1 in the Loss column.

Tyson Fury is a fighter, he's gutsy, but he's not smart and that will catch up to him quickly

I watched this fight and I saw this coming....

How fury didn't I will never know, it's so telegraphed.

[ross]

Lets be fair.

Although Fury has faced good competition it wasnt great. Cunningham may be a small heavyweight but he is a heavyweight none the less and he is tough, never stopped and should have got the decision against Adamek.

Cunningham is probably the most capable, world class fighter that Fury has faced and he went in there full of himself and almost dismissed Cunningham because of his size. He has learnt a lesson that any fight from now on he cant afford to fuck around. He still did a job. These are the sorts of things we should be saying about Price, that he got up, regrouped and came back to win by KO but Price doesnt have Furys toughness or desire. Prices opponent came in in apalling shape and still did that. Cunningham came in great shape and off arguably his best career showing.

My point is, I think Fury underestimated Cunningham because he wasnt perceived as a puncher (although as someone pointed out earlier, he has something like a 50% KO ratio but given that hes been facing world class fighters from about his 15th fight that isnt bad) and the size advantage. You cant blame Fury for being too big, this is the heavyweight division and Mike Tyson fought and won with bigger heaight differences than this one.

Just look at how differently he fought Johnson. He saw Johnson as a bigger threat than Cunningham. He will improve on this.

[TitoFan]

Cunningham landed cleanly and if he had ANY power Fury never would have gotten back up

Totally disagree with this. People insist on putting the "no power" label on Cunningham. He got in a beautiful shot on Fury. Give Fury credit for getting back up. Cunningham staggered him again later on. It was a short, powerful right hand delivered right on the sweet spot. Fury staggered, but fought on.

It's easy and a copout to say Cunningham has no power when he's fighting a 6'-9" behemoth.

That being said, Fury loses to a host of other HW contenders out there. Too raw and unpolished.

[Rantcatrat]

Cunningham landed cleanly and if he had ANY power Fury never would have gotten back up

Totally disagree with this. People insist on putting the "no power" label on Cunningham. He got in a beautiful shot on Fury. Give Fury credit for getting back up. Cunningham staggered him again later on. It was a short, powerful right hand delivered right on the sweet spot. Fury staggered, but fought on.

It's easy and a copout to say Cunningham has no power when he's fighting a 6'-9" behemoth.

That being said, Fury loses to a host of other HW contenders out there. Too raw and unpolished.

Fury has boxed well in other fights. To give credit to Ross, this seemed a little bit like Fury was trying to force his size and strength on Cunningham so much that he forgot his boxing. I thought this was a good, solid win for Fury. Because of his size, he'll always be a threat. If Arreola gets by Stiverne, I actually would be genuinely intrigued by an Arreola-Fury match-up. It can't be ignored that twice Fury has been put to the mat by guys not known as punchers. Wladimir and Haye don't have great chins, but in their defense, they are better boxers than Fury.

[El Kabong]

Totally disagree with this. People insist on putting the "no power" label on Cunningham. He got in a beautiful shot on Fury. Give Fury credit for getting back up. Cunningham staggered him again later on. It was a short, powerful right hand delivered right on the sweet spot. Fury staggered, but fought on.

It's easy and a copout to say Cunningham has no power when he's fighting a 6'-9" behemoth.

That being said, Fury loses to a host of other HW contenders out there. Too raw and unpolished.

Oh look TitoFan has disagreed with me.....






Steve Cunningham 25 wins 12 KO's for a KO% of 38.71%. Yes Cunningham is without a doubt the Bob Foster of his era


Tyson Fury CAN box, he's just too fucking stupid to take advantage of his natural gifts. You let him have a little trouble finding someone and he won't have an answer. Let him get counter punched a few times and he won't make any corrections and vs a true heavyweight with Steve Cunningham power that is apparently dangerous, vs an even bigger puncher if those exist it's going to leave Tyson with a loss by KO....wait and see.