Open scoring, are you for or against?

[Violent Demise]

I don't like it nor do I dislike it. It doesn't really matter to me. But I will say this. Open scoring is a good indicator to find out which fighters are truly great, complete fighters. As well as which really want it. Case in point. The Alvarez-Trout fight. Lot of people complained that open scoring ruined the fight and also cost Trout the fight. There's no way around it. Them people are fucking idiots. Open scoring didn't cost Trout the fight. The better fighter Alvarez cost Trout the fight. Trout is a good fighter. But he's a one-dimensional fighter. He knew he was behind after the 8th. That gave him 4 rounds to try and go for the win. And he didn't. He increased his output a little. But at no time did he really seem to be going for the knock out. He accepted his loss. Open scoring gave him a chance. It gave him 4 rounds to prove his greatness. And he didn't. People claiming Alvarez coasted at the end are just fucking clueless. If he would of coasted than he would of most likely lost the last 4 rounds. Which he did not. Trout just never went for it

Yes I know some of the predictable, less knowledgeable posters will counter with knocking out fighters isn't Trout style and he shouldn't be expected to do so. I say shut the fuck up and go learn some boxing. Pernell Whitaker possessed even less knock out power than Austin Trout. And knocking out people was diffidently not his style. That sure as hell didn't stop him from almost killing Diobleys Hurtado when he saw the fight and a huge payday against De La Hoya slipping away did it? No it did not. He scored the knock out cuz that's what great fighters do.

[walrus]

Definitely against it. Has too much influence in the Championship rounds. Especially with some of this scoring going on. Scoring should not be released until the end of the fight. Kind of takes the thrill out of it for some of the spectators.leave the influence up to the corners, not the judges.

[IamInuit]

If it aint broke don't fix it.
Boxing scoring is broke and open scoring fixes squat.
Clouds things even further.
Lets dummy it down for those playing Bingo at home during the fight.
Lets tell them what they are not watching.
Lets grab the nepotism and broadcast it during the fight.

Pathetic.

[beenKOed]

I don't like it nor do I dislike it. It doesn't really matter to me. But I will say this. Open scoring is a good indicator to find out which fighters are truly great, complete fighters. As well as which really want it. Case in point. The Alvarez-Trout fight. Lot of people complained that open scoring ruined the fight and also cost Trout the fight. There's no way around it. Them people are fucking idiots. Open scoring didn't cost Trout the fight. The better fighter Alvarez cost Trout the fight. Trout is a good fighter. But he's a one-dimensional fighter. He knew he was behind after the 8th. That gave him 4 rounds to try and go for the win. And he didn't. He increased his output a little. But at no time did he really seem to be going for the knock out. He accepted his loss. Open scoring gave him a chance. It gave him 4 rounds to prove his greatness. And he didn't. People claiming Alvarez coasted at the end are just fucking clueless. If he would of coasted than he would of most likely lost the last 4 rounds. Which he did not. Trout just never went for it

Yes I know some of the predictable, less knowledgeable posters will counter with knocking out fighters isn't Trout style and he shouldn't be expected to do so. I say shut the fuck up and go learn some boxing. Pernell Whitaker possessed even less knock out power than Austin Trout. And knocking out people was diffidently not his style. That sure as hell didn't stop him from almost killing Diobleys Hurtado when he saw the fight and a huge payday against De La Hoya slipping away did it? No it did not. He scored the knock out cuz that's what great fighters do.

I can understand why some fans are against open scoring. It's something different, untested, a change that puts them on unfamiliar ground.
I want open scoring because it tells the losing fighter, in concrete terms, he has to do more or something different, instead of listening to a line of BS from his corner.
I want to give it a chance, it could turn out to be bad for boxing, but it could go the other way.
It's not going to be perfect, the thing I worry about most is the referee. Knowing the score could influence the ref. to stop a fight or let it go on.

[Violent Demise]

I don't like it nor do I dislike it. It doesn't really matter to me. But I will say this. Open scoring is a good indicator to find out which fighters are truly great, complete fighters. As well as which really want it. Case in point. The Alvarez-Trout fight. Lot of people complained that open scoring ruined the fight and also cost Trout the fight. There's no way around it. Them people are fucking idiots. Open scoring didn't cost Trout the fight. The better fighter Alvarez cost Trout the fight. Trout is a good fighter. But he's a one-dimensional fighter. He knew he was behind after the 8th. That gave him 4 rounds to try and go for the win. And he didn't. He increased his output a little. But at no time did he really seem to be going for the knock out. He accepted his loss. Open scoring gave him a chance. It gave him 4 rounds to prove his greatness. And he didn't. People claiming Alvarez coasted at the end are just fucking clueless. If he would of coasted than he would of most likely lost the last 4 rounds. Which he did not. Trout just never went for it

Yes I know some of the predictable, less knowledgeable posters will counter with knocking out fighters isn't Trout style and he shouldn't be expected to do so. I say shut the fuck up and go learn some boxing. Pernell Whitaker possessed even less knock out power than Austin Trout. And knocking out people was diffidently not his style. That sure as hell didn't stop him from almost killing Diobleys Hurtado when he saw the fight and a huge payday against De La Hoya slipping away did it? No it did not. He scored the knock out cuz that's what great fighters do.

I can understand why some fans are against open scoring. It's something different, untested, a change that puts them on unfamiliar ground.
I want open scoring because it tells the losing fighter, in concrete terms, he has to do more or something different, instead of listening to a line of BS from his corner.
I want to give it a chance, it could turn out to be bad for boxing, but it could go the other way.
It's not going to be perfect, the thing I worry about most is the referee. Knowing the score could influence the ref. to stop a fight or let it go on.

It's one of the reasons I don't mind it.

[IamInuit]

I don't like it nor do I dislike it. It doesn't really matter to me. But I will say this. Open scoring is a good indicator to find out which fighters are truly great, complete fighters. As well as which really want it. Case in point. The Alvarez-Trout fight. Lot of people complained that open scoring ruined the fight and also cost Trout the fight. There's no way around it. Them people are fucking idiots. Open scoring didn't cost Trout the fight. The better fighter Alvarez cost Trout the fight. Trout is a good fighter. But he's a one-dimensional fighter. He knew he was behind after the 8th. That gave him 4 rounds to try and go for the win. And he didn't. He increased his output a little. But at no time did he really seem to be going for the knock out. He accepted his loss. Open scoring gave him a chance. It gave him 4 rounds to prove his greatness. And he didn't. People claiming Alvarez coasted at the end are just fucking clueless. If he would of coasted than he would of most likely lost the last 4 rounds. Which he did not. Trout just never went for it

Yes I know some of the predictable, less knowledgeable posters will counter with knocking out fighters isn't Trout style and he shouldn't be expected to do so. I say shut the fuck up and go learn some boxing. Pernell Whitaker possessed even less knock out power than Austin Trout. And knocking out people was diffidently not his style. That sure as hell didn't stop him from almost killing Diobleys Hurtado when he saw the fight and a huge payday against De La Hoya slipping away did it? No it did not. He scored the knock out cuz that's what great fighters do.

I can understand why some fans are against open scoring. It's something different, untested, a change that puts them on unfamiliar ground.
I want open scoring because it tells the losing fighter, in concrete terms, he has to do more or something different, instead of listening to a line of BS from his corner.
I want to give it a chance, it could turn out to be bad for boxing, but it could go the other way.
It's not going to be perfect, the thing I worry about most is the referee. Knowing the score could influence the ref. to stop a fight or let it go on.

It's one of the reasons I don't mind it.

Lets keep this civil. Its the reason I do mind it.

[Spicoli]

If a guy settles for or blames a bs corner for not knowing hes losing doesn't he deserve what he gets?

[Violent Demise]

If a guy settles for or blames a bs corner for not knowing hes losing doesn't he deserve what he gets?

If a fighter knows for a fact he's behind and fails to go for it, it's kind of hard to feel sorry for his ass

[Spicoli]

If a guy settles for or blames a bs corner for not knowing hes losing doesn't he deserve what he gets?

If a fighter knows for a fact he's behind and fails to go for it, it's kind of hard to feel sorry for his ass

I'm with that I just don't think a fighter needs a nanny. A quality corner and fighter can read the scene and fight and should never relax in hopes of judges. Judges will screw them regardless of open or not.

[IamInuit]

If a guy settles for or blames a bs corner for not knowing hes losing doesn't he deserve what he gets?

Judging needs a rewrite but it's not open scoring. Take them away from ring side and give them the same camera angles we get.

That KING 13 you brought up earlier is not all that bad. Like an extra inning.

[Violent Demise]

If a guy settles for or blames a bs corner for not knowing hes losing doesn't he deserve what he gets?

Judging needs a rewrite but it's not open scoring. Take them away from ring side and give them the same camera angles we get.

That KING 13 you brought up earlier is not all that bad. Like an extra inning.

There's a big difference watching a fight from ringside and behind a camera. They need to ringside. Give them monitors or something. But you can't not have them ringside

[Spicoli]

If a guy settles for or blames a bs corner for not knowing hes losing doesn't he deserve what he gets?

Judging needs a rewrite but it's not open scoring. Take them away from ring side and give them the same camera angles we get.

That KING 13 you brought up earlier is not all that bad. Like an extra inning.

Intro them as the ref, and have them ring center at announce. Put faces on the map.

Not sure about the 13th either. There are fights that 'feel' or come out draws. Plus at end of 12 a guy comes off high, its all a massive finale only to have go cold, restart after a discussion etc.

[Ant Live]

Against!!!!

[bzkfn]

I'm against it. Sam Peter quit on his stool against Vitali because of it. Now if he hadn't have known the score, he may have kept trying for the KO. Because he was so far behind, he just accepted it and quit, robbing the fans of their money's worth.

Canelo is a come forward fighter and people pay to see him because he brings KO power but knowing he was so far ahead he didn't even attempt to utilize it in the last few rounds because he knew the fight was in the bag.

Boxing is an entertainment business and for me open scoring has only had a negative affect on the entertainment factor of a fight.

Can someone give an example were open scoring has encouraged a boxer to turn the fight around?

[Galaxy]

Totally against