HBO: Martinez vs Murray, Arreola vs Stiverne.... Saturday night fight thread

[Rantcatrat]

Why is Junior fighting Vera? Why didn't he wait to see what happened in this fight before fighting Vera? In the alternative, why didn't Junior face Barker? Vera at 165 is way out of his optimal weight class.

[TitoFan]

Why is Junior fighting Vera?

You mean instead of Golovkin or even Murray? Easy. Team Chavez made the mistake of putting Junior's "0" on the line against the first credible opposition he's ever faced, Sergio Martinez. The "0" is now gone, but not the goal of having Junior amass the 100 victories his daddy reached. Ok, so the Martinez fight was a glitch in the masterplan... but now it's back to Plan B.

Vera is there to be hit. Before his last fight with Donatas Bondorovas, Vera publicly said he'd rather not have to face Chavez. But guess what? He won that fight (albeit not too convincingly)... and money talks. So Vera will gladly assume the role of cannon fodder for Junior, who is sure to come into the fight at somewhere between 180 and 190 pounds. Team Chavez will not make THAT mistake again.... no sir.

Need I say more?

[Violent Demise]

Why is Junior fighting Vera? Why didn't he wait to see what happened in this fight before fighting Vera? In the alternative, why didn't Junior face Barker? Vera at 165 is way out of his optimal weight class.

Barker punked out and said no

Barker said they wanted him to fight at super middle.

Yet he turned down the offer

Why is Junior fighting Vera?

You mean instead of Golovkin or even Murray? Easy. Team Chavez made the mistake of putting Junior's "0" on the line against the first credible opposition he's ever faced, Sergio Martinez. The "0" is now gone, but not the goal of having Junior amass the 100 victories his daddy reached. Ok, so the Martinez fight was a glitch in the masterplan... but now it's back to Plan B.

Vera is there to be hit. Before his last fight with Donatas Bondorovas, Vera publicly said he'd rather not have to face Chavez. But guess what? He won that fight (albeit not too convincingly)... and money talks. So Vera will gladly assume the role of cannon fodder for Junior, who is sure to come into the fight at somewhere between 180 and 190 pounds. Team Chavez will not make THAT mistake again.... no sir.

Need I say more?

Yeah Chavez Sr. really suck. Most be why he went undefeated against Puerto Rican fighters his whole career.

[TitoFan]

Why is Junior fighting Vera?

You mean instead of Golovkin or even Murray? Easy. Team Chavez made the mistake of putting Junior's "0" on the line against the first credible opposition he's ever faced, Sergio Martinez. The "0" is now gone, but not the goal of having Junior amass the 100 victories his daddy reached. Ok, so the Martinez fight was a glitch in the masterplan... but now it's back to Plan B.

Vera is there to be hit. Before his last fight with Donatas Bondorovas, Vera publicly said he'd rather not have to face Chavez. But guess what? He won that fight (albeit not too convincingly)... and money talks. So Vera will gladly assume the role of cannon fodder for Junior, who is sure to come into the fight at somewhere between 180 and 190 pounds. Team Chavez will not make THAT mistake again.... no sir.

Need I say more?

Yeah Chavez Sr. really suck. Most be why he went undefeated against Puerto Rican fighters his whole career.

Way to deflect the argument, dipshit.
I'm ridiculing Junior's shameless spoonfeeding... and something on Papa is all you can come up with?
You idiocy is reaching new depths.

But whatever.....

[Rantcatrat]

So I understand it correctly, Barker turned down the fight with Junior because he didn't want to fight Junior at super middleweight. That makes sense, if you're Barker, why go up to super middleweight, if you can still make middleweight.

Has Junior made a statement that he is permanently leaving the middleweight division?

[Violent Demise]

Why is Junior fighting Vera?

You mean instead of Golovkin or even Murray? Easy. Team Chavez made the mistake of putting Junior's "0" on the line against the first credible opposition he's ever faced, Sergio Martinez. The "0" is now gone, but not the goal of having Junior amass the 100 victories his daddy reached. Ok, so the Martinez fight was a glitch in the masterplan... but now it's back to Plan B.

Vera is there to be hit. Before his last fight with Donatas Bondorovas, Vera publicly said he'd rather not have to face Chavez. But guess what? He won that fight (albeit not too convincingly)... and money talks. So Vera will gladly assume the role of cannon fodder for Junior, who is sure to come into the fight at somewhere between 180 and 190 pounds. Team Chavez will not make THAT mistake again.... no sir.

Need I say more?

Yeah Chavez Sr. really suck. Most be why he went undefeated against Puerto Rican fighters his whole career.

Way to deflect the argument, dipshit.
I'm ridiculing Junior's shameless spoonfeeding... and something on Papa is all you can come up with?
You idiocy is reaching new depths.

But whatever.....

you brought his dad up first bitch. I just stated a simple true fact.

So I understand it correctly, Barker turned down the fight with Junior because he didn't want to fight Junior at super middleweight. That makes sense, if you're Barker, why go up to super middleweight, if you can still make middleweight.

Has Junior made a statement that he is permanently leaving the middleweight division?

Cuz it would of paid you very well

[Rantcatrat]

Did anyone else notice that Sergio Martinez did not look his usual cut-up self? He appeared more fleshy than is typical for him. I wonder if the knee injury suffered in his fight against Junior actually didn't heal as fast as they wanted and that affected his camp. Either way, he's out for a year.

[TitoFan]

You mean instead of Golovkin or even Murray? Easy. Team Chavez made the mistake of putting Junior's "0" on the line against the first credible opposition he's ever faced, Sergio Martinez. The "0" is now gone, but not the goal of having Junior amass the 100 victories his daddy reached. Ok, so the Martinez fight was a glitch in the masterplan... but now it's back to Plan B.

Vera is there to be hit. Before his last fight with Donatas Bondorovas, Vera publicly said he'd rather not have to face Chavez. But guess what? He won that fight (albeit not too convincingly)... and money talks. So Vera will gladly assume the role of cannon fodder for Junior, who is sure to come into the fight at somewhere between 180 and 190 pounds. Team Chavez will not make THAT mistake again.... no sir.

Need I say more?

Yeah Chavez Sr. really suck. Most be why he went undefeated against Puerto Rican fighters his whole career.

Way to deflect the argument, dipshit.
I'm ridiculing Junior's shameless spoonfeeding... and something on Papa is all you can come up with?
You idiocy is reaching new depths.

But whatever.....

you brought his dad up first bitch. I just stated a simple true fact.

Cut the personal bullshit, VD. Everyone here knows you're incapable of even the slightest unbias when it comes to your boy Chavez Jr. You spit out comments like "Barker punked out" without giving it a second thought.

But the worst of it is your stupid claim that Chavez Jr. somehow "ruined" Martinez, when everyone on the planet knows you're full of shit. Junior didn't "ruin" Martinez. Martinez ruined Martinez. He made the mistake of coming back from hurting his knee and his hand. The same hand he used over and over again to beat Junior into a bloody pulp, as he was schooling the shit out of him. Can you get that through your thick fucking skull? Maybe if someone else says it, you'll finally understand.

Now STFU and man up when you've made a fucking stupid comment.

[Violent Demise]

Why is Junior fighting Vera? Why didn't he wait to see what happened in this fight before fighting Vera? In the alternative, why didn't Junior face Barker? Vera at 165 is way out of his optimal weight class.

Barker punked out and said no

[Master]

Why is Junior fighting Vera? Why didn't he wait to see what happened in this fight before fighting Vera? In the alternative, why didn't Junior face Barker? Vera at 165 is way out of his optimal weight class.

Barker punked out and said no

Barker said they wanted him to fight at super middle.