HBO: Martinez vs Murray, Arreola vs Stiverne.... Saturday night fight thread

[Spicoli]

You guys just missed the Zab Judah chicken dance redux

[IamInuit]

Stiverne fights like he's on valium.

[chris6878]

Stiverne fights like he's on valium.

Chris gonna need all types of drugs to mask the pain of those mean ass body blows

[Freedom]

It's going to be very difficult for Chris Arreola to bounce back and be a contender after this loss.

[IamInuit]

Stiverne fights like he's on valium.

Chris gonna need all types of drugs to mask the pain of those mean ass body blows

Dudes so calm in there. Yeah Chris be pissin blood for a few days.

[#1FightFan]

Murray & Stiverne are BOTH beasts!!!! Arreola is garbage. tough but not too skilled at all. Stivernes body shots were brutal. i wanna see him land on ole glass jaw wlad. he could too i bet! he can box.

[chris6878]

Murray & Stiverne are BOTH beasts!!!! Arreola is garbage. tough but not too skilled at all. Stivernes body shots were brutal. i wanna see him land on ole glass jaw wlad. he could too i bet! he can box.

I'd like to see him get one more good fight for work on his skills before wlad. Also he needs to step his blocking game up. He was looking real shifty and quick when he was avoiding punches. I'd like to see him kd wlad and see what happens

[beenKOed]

Can someone who scored the fight for Martinez explain why? He did almost nothing after the 2nd round.

I thought he stole the 9th and 11th just on activity and Murrays inactivity.

I think I gave Martinez the 9th, but even in those rounds I thought that Murray was controlling the ring, showing better defence, and landing better punches. Martinez hit gloves all night and little else.

Martinez won the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 9th, 11th. So with the knockdown I had Murray by 3. It's a robbery to me because you can't really make a case for any other rounds for Martinez. Not to mention the extra knockdown Murray should have been given. I've pretty much had enough of this shit. It's a joke of a sport at times.

I agree, Murray was robbed. Martinez is slip sliding away and needs to do some thinking about his career.

[beenKOed]

Murray & Stiverne are BOTH beasts!!!! Arreola is garbage. tough but not too skilled at all. Stivernes body shots were brutal. i wanna see him land on ole glass jaw wlad. he could too i bet! he can box.

Don't get too excited, Stiverne is good but don't throw him in with the big dogs yet. He needs a few more fights.
Arreola is finding the level he belongs at, and it's not at the top. I've never had high hopes for him, but he is tough as they come with good power and likes to mix it up so he is always entertaining.

[Beanflicker]

Don't get too excited, Stiverne is good but don't throw him in with the big dogs yet. He needs a few more fights.

Yeah, really though.

He beats a 42 year old Ray Austin and Chris Arreola, and now he's supposed to jump right in there with Wlad?

[Rantcatrat]

Why is Junior fighting Vera? Why didn't he wait to see what happened in this fight before fighting Vera? In the alternative, why didn't Junior face Barker? Vera at 165 is way out of his optimal weight class.

[TitoFan]

Why is Junior fighting Vera?

You mean instead of Golovkin or even Murray? Easy. Team Chavez made the mistake of putting Junior's "0" on the line against the first credible opposition he's ever faced, Sergio Martinez. The "0" is now gone, but not the goal of having Junior amass the 100 victories his daddy reached. Ok, so the Martinez fight was a glitch in the masterplan... but now it's back to Plan B.

Vera is there to be hit. Before his last fight with Donatas Bondorovas, Vera publicly said he'd rather not have to face Chavez. But guess what? He won that fight (albeit not too convincingly)... and money talks. So Vera will gladly assume the role of cannon fodder for Junior, who is sure to come into the fight at somewhere between 180 and 190 pounds. Team Chavez will not make THAT mistake again.... no sir.

Need I say more?

[Violent Demise]

Why is Junior fighting Vera? Why didn't he wait to see what happened in this fight before fighting Vera? In the alternative, why didn't Junior face Barker? Vera at 165 is way out of his optimal weight class.

Barker punked out and said no

[Master]

Why is Junior fighting Vera? Why didn't he wait to see what happened in this fight before fighting Vera? In the alternative, why didn't Junior face Barker? Vera at 165 is way out of his optimal weight class.

Barker punked out and said no

Barker said they wanted him to fight at super middle.

[Violent Demise]

Why is Junior fighting Vera? Why didn't he wait to see what happened in this fight before fighting Vera? In the alternative, why didn't Junior face Barker? Vera at 165 is way out of his optimal weight class.

Barker punked out and said no

Barker said they wanted him to fight at super middle.

Yet he turned down the offer

Why is Junior fighting Vera?

You mean instead of Golovkin or even Murray? Easy. Team Chavez made the mistake of putting Junior's "0" on the line against the first credible opposition he's ever faced, Sergio Martinez. The "0" is now gone, but not the goal of having Junior amass the 100 victories his daddy reached. Ok, so the Martinez fight was a glitch in the masterplan... but now it's back to Plan B.

Vera is there to be hit. Before his last fight with Donatas Bondorovas, Vera publicly said he'd rather not have to face Chavez. But guess what? He won that fight (albeit not too convincingly)... and money talks. So Vera will gladly assume the role of cannon fodder for Junior, who is sure to come into the fight at somewhere between 180 and 190 pounds. Team Chavez will not make THAT mistake again.... no sir.

Need I say more?

Yeah Chavez Sr. really suck. Most be why he went undefeated against Puerto Rican fighters his whole career.