Bernard Hopkins to fight Karo Murat in the summer

[ray corso]

What great talents has he defeated? Why isn't he fighting for the LtHvy title! (and I don't mean against kids like Cloud)
You see I've been in the boxing game a long time and I know the game Bernard is running and you won't see him in there tuff anymore! (tuff meaning an opponent that could win)
Personally I could care less what some kid named "Violent Demise" cares hahahaha violent demise really with a picture of a clown drinking and pointing a gun hahahaha how old is this kid 12 yrs old
As for calling me an idiot........did I call you any names? Why can't I have my opinions posted without being called a name? Theres seems to be "tuff guys" on all forums. Heres the difference between honest people who give their opinions after spending years in the sport!!! We use OUR NAMES, real names!!!! Kids like violent demise are in a dream world talking about boxing they think their the violent demise of the ring hahaha!!!
bzkfm; your entitled to post ypur opinion and if you agree with the "demiser" thats ok just keep the name calling under control. I opened my first gym in 1969 its still active today run by one of the members from the mid eighties. Wheres your experience come from? Never mind I really don't care! Ray.

[Violent Demise]

What great talents has he defeated? Why isn't he fighting for the LtHvy title! (and I don't mean against kids like Cloud)
You see I've been in the boxing game a long time and I know the game Bernard is running and you won't see him in there tuff anymore! (tuff meaning an opponent that could win)
Personally I could care less what some kid named "Violent Demise" cares hahahaha violent demise really with a picture of a clown drinking and pointing a gun hahahaha how old is this kid 12 yrs old
As for calling me an idiot........did I call you any names? Why can't I have my opinions posted without being called a name? Theres seems to be "tuff guys" on all forums. Heres the difference between honest people who give their opinions after spending years in the sport!!! We use OUR NAMES, real names!!!! Kids like violent demise are in a dream world talking about boxing they think their the violent demise of the ring hahaha!!!
bzkfm; your entitled to post ypur opinion and if you agree with the "demiser" thats ok just keep the name calling under control. I opened my first gym in 1969 its still active today run by one of the members from the mid eighties. Wheres your experience come from? Never mind I really don't care! Ray.

And you don't consider Hopkins great? You should be a fucking ashame of yourself. Actually no you shouldn't be. I call bullshit on your claim. I know exactly who the fuck you are. You dislike for Hopkins is obvious. It's just pathetic (really,really pathetic) you express it in this matter. Say whatever you want. Claim whatever you want. It doesn't change the fact that you don't know shit about the sport of boxing.

[ray corso]

bah blah blah thats all you do is run your mouth, you wouldn't know an inside pivot from how to "walk off an opponent" your just a big mouth kid who loves to quote others than degrade them. I have zero interest in a debate with a kid who calls himself violent demise (thats funny) who is only on forums to disrespect people but never adds any actual boxing methods/techjniques and insights that are meaningfull. You just want to internet fight and blah blah................good bye sonny!

[bzkfn]

What great talents has he defeated? Why isn't he fighting for the LtHvy title! (and I don't mean against kids like Cloud)
You see I've been in the boxing game a long time and I know the game Bernard is running and you won't see him in there tuff anymore! (tuff meaning an opponent that could win)
Personally I could care less what some kid named "Violent Demise" cares hahahaha violent demise really with a picture of a clown drinking and pointing a gun hahahaha how old is this kid 12 yrs old
As for calling me an idiot........did I call you any names? Why can't I have my opinions posted without being called a name? Theres seems to be "tuff guys" on all forums. Heres the difference between honest people who give their opinions after spending years in the sport!!! We use OUR NAMES, real names!!!! Kids like violent demise are in a dream world talking about boxing they think their the violent demise of the ring hahaha!!!
bzkfm; your entitled to post ypur opinion and if you agree with the "demiser" thats ok just keep the name calling under control. I opened my first gym in 1969 its still active today run by one of the members from the mid eighties. Wheres your experience come from? Never mind I really don't care! Ray.

I never said you were an idiot, I said the comment was stupid. I've seen a few of your posts were you claim certain moder day boxers aren't greats. It absolutely blows my mind when someone who is around the sport gets all nostalgic and rose tinted about the past that they totally disregard a fighter from the modern era just because of something Ali or Tyson did in the Good Ol' days. Yes there were many great fighters back in the day, but there are some great fighters today and opinions like this are detrimental to the sport

As for asking who Hopkins has beaten, try Trinidad, De La Hoya, Tarver, Joppy, Winky, Pavlik & Pascal. Have at look at his age when beating Pavlik & Pascal. Have a look at the consensus on who would win those fights. Almost everyone believed Pavlik would stop him and he boxed his ears off and nearly finished him. Also note that no other 48 year old boxer is winning or has won World Titles.

Are you really saying that he's average despite the fact the guy is continuously defying the odds?

[Spicoli]

Ray, man, lighten up. If hes not your cup of tea then drink warm milk, ya know. Hopkins knows the sport inside and out and could write a phonebook on ring generalship. Hes as 'old school' today as we as fans are blessed to have. Seriously I have no doubt he of all people runs opponent strategy and games rounds in his sleep and in the morning when hes clipping those annoying gray ear hairs. James Toney was old school in style and mind at one time but now he is a punchline. Hopkins is running with "kids" half his age into his 40's going on 50 ffs and holding his own against some of the better fighters going today not to mention breaking his own records. You can't slight a dude because he was born into another era and equally you cannot slight an era or label it weak because its not the one we fell in love with.