Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
@Beanflicker - will you do me a favor and demonstrate how Mayweather's body of work is better than the other great fighters we admire. If you would prefer, feel free to limit that to fighters considered great by many that we have film of. I would prefer to save the argument about older fighters versus contemporary fighters to a different thread.
You're not getting it. I'm not saying his body of work is better. I'm saying it's on par with anyone elses' and his level of skill is better.

I'm still waiting for you to demonstrate how your top 10 fighters have a more impressive body of work than Mayweather. I've thrown down the challenge to you, or anyone else who wants to take it up. Don't try to wiggle out of it. I'm challenging your boxing knowledge. Take your top 5 to 10 guys (or even your top 25 guys, if you feel adventurous) and tell me why their resumes are so much better than Mayweather's.

Ray Robinson, Benny Leonard, Hank Armstrong, Willie Pep, I wanna know what these guys did that makes them uncomparable to Floyd Mayweather. I wanna know why opponents like Jake Lamotta, Bobo Olson, Joey Maxim, ect are more impressive than guys like Ricky Hatton, JLC, Diego Corrales, De La Hoya, ect. I really want to know. Educate me, I'm an open minded guy. I don't want to think Floyd Mayweather is the GOAT. I think he's an asshole.

Just keep in mind that when doing it, you have to use the same criteria as you use to smash PBF. Don't get lazy like Inuit and say "well he beat a bunch of HOFers". Tell me what their best fights were, what it meant, and what they showed the world.

I await your reply, good sirs
I think we're both being lazy. I asked you to show how he compared favorably to the top twenty five guys and you asked the opposite of me. Neither of us has done it.

I also asked you which of Floyd's wins was on par with Duran's over Leonard? Did you answer that? I might have missed it; I'll recheck the thread after this post.

I want to make clear though that I never smashed PBF, unless smashing PBF is saying that he's in the top 50 of all-time, which to me is quite the compliment. We just rank him differently. I mean consider right now there are 17 weight classes in boxing and originally there were 8. I just don't think he's top 25. I think the reason is that I don't think too highly of his wins since lightweight. I think that's the bottom line for me. They weren't bad wins. I just don't think they're good enough to merit top twenty-five status.