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    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post
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    i think floyd should fight martinez next at 160. floyd should come in at 146 and would dominate martinez and win by late ko. easy fight for floyd. retirement money for martinez. win win situation.
    Absolutely, or Canelo at 154. @ruthless rocco They are both legacy-improving fights too, whereas taking on the Guerrero's/Garcia's/Alexander's of the world don't do anything for his legacy. Isn't it odd that he won't even answer questions about facing Martinez? He won't even consider it as an option even when Martinez has been calling him out for years.
    Maybe because those questions aren't worth answering! The Martinez fight would only happen at 154...a weight that is FAR from ideal for Sergio. Floyd will not accept a catch weight (160) so that is a mute point. Add that to the fact that Martinez is on the slide and now injury prone...Floyd would school him badly. I can't see Canelo staying at 154 much longer (and there is no way he is coming down to 147 as someone suggested earlier). He already has stamina issue and struggling to make weight against a supremely conditioned athlete like Floyd would only make it more one sided in Floyd's favor. Floyd beats Canelo at 154. My point is...that Martinez and Canelo are not evenly matched on the weight issue to make these "legacy" fights for Floyd. Floyd is not going above 154...and to be honest...there is no reason for him to fight guys that will be outweighing him by 20-30 pounds come fight night.
    Are you suggesting that Floyd would have an easier time with Sergio Martinez or Canelo than he would with Amir Khan or Danny Garcia?

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    Floyd is the gate and ppv king along with being the best fighter on the planet. He is also a natural welterweight and not a big one. Why should he even move up for Alvarez? Lalonde came down to 168 for Lenard as did Dawson for Ward and Ward cant draw worms to a shit parade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Floyd is the gate and ppv king along with being the best fighter on the planet. He is also a natural welterweight and not a big one. Why should he even move up for Alvarez? Lalonde came down to 168 for Lenard as did Dawson for Ward and Ward cant draw worms to a shit parade.
    And Duran went up to 160 to challenge an ATG in Hagler and beat a good middleweight in Barkley.

    But, I agree, there is no financial reason to face Canelo when Showtime will pay him the same amount of money to face lesser competition.

    However, do we all agree that Amir Khan, Danny Garcia, and Devon Alexander are not as difficult opponents as Canelo, Trout, or Lara?

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    Floyd is the gate and ppv king along with being the best fighter on the planet. He is also a natural welterweight and not a big one. Why should he even move up for Alvarez? Lalonde came down to 168 for Lenard as did Dawson for Ward and Ward cant draw worms to a shit parade.
    And Duran went up to 160 to challenge an ATG in Hagler and beat a good middleweight in Barkley.

    But, I agree, there is no financial reason to face Canelo when Showtime will pay him the same amount of money to face lesser competition.

    However, do we all agree that Amir Khan, Danny Garcia, and Devon Alexander are not as difficult opponents as Canelo, Trout, or Lara?
    Indeed but that was a time when legacy had to do with actual pugilistic endeavors and not paydays alone. Leonard came out of a 3 year hiatus for Hagler 2 divisions north. When Armstrong challenged Ross he weighed in at 133. Those days are gone my friend and when in Rome....

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Floyd is the gate and ppv king along with being the best fighter on the planet. He is also a natural welterweight and not a big one. Why should he even move up for Alvarez? Lalonde came down to 168 for Lenard as did Dawson for Ward and Ward cant draw worms to a shit parade.
    And Duran went up to 160 to challenge an ATG in Hagler and beat a good middleweight in Barkley.

    But, I agree, there is no financial reason to face Canelo when Showtime will pay him the same amount of money to face lesser competition.

    However, do we all agree that Amir Khan, Danny Garcia, and Devon Alexander are not as difficult opponents as Canelo, Trout, or Lara?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Floyd is the gate and ppv king along with being the best fighter on the planet. He is also a natural welterweight and not a big one. Why should he even move up for Alvarez? Lalonde came down to 168 for Lenard as did Dawson for Ward and Ward cant draw worms to a shit parade.
    And Duran went up to 160 to challenge an ATG in Hagler and beat a good middleweight in Barkley.

    But, I agree, there is no financial reason to face Canelo when Showtime will pay him the same amount of money to face lesser competition.

    However, do we all agree that Amir Khan, Danny Garcia, and Devon Alexander are not as difficult opponents as Canelo, Trout, or Lara?

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    Any truth to Fat Dan saying that Mayweather v Guerrero did bad numbers? Might be the incentive for Showtime to push him to meet a Canelo etc sooner rather than later. With the five fights floating surely hes not going into a Martinez or Canelo right away otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Any truth to Fat Dan saying that Mayweather v Guerrero did bad numbers? Might be the incentive for Showtime to push him to meet a Canelo etc sooner rather than later. With the five fights floating surely hes not going into a Martinez or Canelo right away otherwise.
    If Floyd Guerrero did poor numbers and Floyd can pick who he fights then Showtime are fucked, they've signed an Alex Rodriguez contract. If Showtime can pick the fighters they should make him fight Alvarez next and Martinez after that. Floyd can potshot Alvarez all night long and win a wide decision and Martinez at 154 in his first fight back after a broken hand would be even easier.

    If it's true that Showtime have lost money on the weekend fight then they stand to lose a lot more over the rest of the contract and it's likely the only way they can recoup some of it will be to slash their boxing budget. This could fuck GBP up. HBO must be wetting themselves laughing right now if the PPV numbers are indeed rubbish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
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    i think floyd should fight martinez next at 160. floyd should come in at 146 and would dominate martinez and win by late ko. easy fight for floyd. retirement money for martinez. win win situation.
    Absolutely, or Canelo at 154. @ruthless rocco They are both legacy-improving fights too, whereas taking on the Guerrero's/Garcia's/Alexander's of the world don't do anything for his legacy. Isn't it odd that he won't even answer questions about facing Martinez? He won't even consider it as an option even when Martinez has been calling him out for years.
    Maybe because those questions aren't worth answering! The Martinez fight would only happen at 154...a weight that is FAR from ideal for Sergio. Floyd will not accept a catch weight (160) so that is a mute point. Add that to the fact that Martinez is on the slide and now injury prone...Floyd would school him badly. I can't see Canelo staying at 154 much longer (and there is no way he is coming down to 147 as someone suggested earlier). He already has stamina issue and struggling to make weight against a supremely conditioned athlete like Floyd would only make it more one sided in Floyd's favor. Floyd beats Canelo at 154. My point is...that Martinez and Canelo are not evenly matched on the weight issue to make these "legacy" fights for Floyd. Floyd is not going above 154...and to be honest...there is no reason for him to fight guys that will be outweighing him by 20-30 pounds come fight night.
    Are you suggesting that Floyd would have an easier time with Sergio Martinez or Canelo than he would with Amir Khan or Danny Garcia?
    I clearly rate Martinez and Canelo over Khan and Garcia...BUT i do not see Floyd fighting over 154 EVER. So for the Martinez and Canelo fights to even have a remote chance of happening...it would have to be at that weight. And at that weight...i would have Floyd as the big favorite against either.

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    Canelo or martinez would have their biggest payday ever so they should just get used to the idea of making 147 and be happy with that.

    Its about legacy as well and the plus points of them beating mayweather is huge. Take the risk and beat him.

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    Canelo, sure. Martinez ain't making WW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Canelo or martinez would have their biggest payday ever so they should just get used to the idea of making 147 and be happy with that.

    Its about legacy as well and the plus points of them beating mayweather is huge. Take the risk and beat him.
    Floyd does not care about legacy it is all about the money. If he can get the same amount for fighting Guerrero than if he risked it against Saul then he will take the easier option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Canelo or martinez would have their biggest payday ever so they should just get used to the idea of making 147 and be happy with that.

    Its about legacy as well and the plus points of them beating mayweather is huge. Take the risk and beat him.
    Floyd does not care about legacy it is all about the money. If he can get the same amount for fighting Guerrero than if he risked it against Saul then he will take the easier option.
    Would you say canelo resume is better than guerrero resume.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
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    Canelo or martinez would have their biggest payday ever so they should just get used to the idea of making 147 and be happy with that.

    Its about legacy as well and the plus points of them beating mayweather is huge. Take the risk and beat him.
    Floyd does not care about legacy it is all about the money. If he can get the same amount for fighting Guerrero than if he risked it against Saul then he will take the easier option.
    Would you say canelo resume is better than guerrero resume.?
    Saul has proven he is the best at the weight by beating the top fighters, there is no doubt about that. We know Floyd is the best welter, the only real challenges out there are at the wights above and he should earn his big fat contract by fighting outside of his comfort zone otherwise he will bore everyone with 5 fights on points decisions and claiming he hurt his hands as to why he did not stop any of them when we all no he cannot punch hard at all.
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    This morning...Lara Provided of course he takes care of Alvarez, has a toe in the weight and 154 trinkets? Slap me silly but...I'd pay to see that one. Seems more realistic than a Martinez fight. Same network. Style wise it just appeals to me, and would not be near the opponent Mayweathers accustomed to. I'm no fan of Lara, but lastnight was impressive and I think he stepped up a notch. Too soon for him?

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