Benghazi...oh you knew it was coming

[El Kabong]

Bush was negligent repeatedly on a massive scale. People drowned in his own country, as he nonchalantly flew over their heads, he rigged the vote that saw him elected, he lead countless Americans to their deaths, but of course that is not relevant. To the rest of the world this smells like a witch hunt. Obama takes out Bin Laden and the Republicans get butt hurt because it does not feed into their idea that he is a pansy. There were protests all over the middle east at the time of the Bhenghazi incident, due to many reasons and the rest of the world saw them. Dieing from smoke inhalation results in the same thing as being shot or blown up. The idea that Obama is personally responsible for the safety of every American on foreign soil or that he would stand to gain something by allowing them to die sounds like a desperate attempt to smear his name, orchestrated by dumb men like McCain who turned down opportunities to attend briefings on the actual events in Libya in order to start media campaigns attacking Obama. The rhetoric being employed by Republicans totally undermines everything they say. Sour grapes from big babies who care about nothing but power and not one jot about America.

People are still homeless and don't have electricity from Super storm Sandy.....where's the outrage at that. Get off of George W. Bush already fucking ridiculous!

[VictorCharlie]

Yes, Bush was a bad President can we now over 4 years since he left office talk about the current President on his own right. I did not say that the President is personally responsible for what happened in Benghazi and had the official statement been that it was a coordinated AQ attack that was successful do to negligent planning and reaction furthermore the responsible parties have been relieved of their jobs then we wouldn't be talking about this. I often tell my children that lying only makes it worse and my Soldiers that bad news doesn't get better with time. Someone should remind all of DC of this. If all you can offer in this discussion is to point to Bush and how Obama is not quite as bad then you are really just making Lyle's points for him.

[Beanz]

Yes, Bush was a bad President can we now over 4 years since he left office talk about the current President on his own right. I did not say that the President is personally responsible for what happened in Benghazi and had the official statement been that it was a coordinated AQ attack that was successful do to negligent planning and reaction furthermore the responsible parties have been relieved of their jobs then we wouldn't be talking about this. I often tell my children that lying only makes it worse and my Soldiers that bad news doesn't get better with time. Someone should remind all of DC of this. If all you can offer in this discussion is to point to Bush and how Obama is not quite as bad then you are really just making Lyle's points for him.

So it's OK to talk about Nixon and Watergate but not Bush ? I ask because I am a little unclear on the rules of engagement here.

[VictorCharlie]

GB we can talk about King Tut if you want but I don't think it is relevant to the attack on Benghazi.

[Gandalf]

Hark at Lyle, ranting about the death of 4 people, but ignoring the hundreds of thousands dead because of what his country has carried out in the last generation or so. 'Oh, but they weren't sacred American blood, so what do we care'. It's actually quite funny seeing Lyle, implode with these recent threads and posts. I can't stand Obama either, but Lyle fails to notice the things that are far more significant. He will only pick up on the things his lunatic media tells him to pick up on.

I also find VC quite hilarious with his pompous spiel about there being no such thing as an illegal or legal war. So American. Of course it cannot be illegal if it is us doing it! Just as the lunatic Israeli's believe settlement building is nothing more than putting up trees in the park, it is America's god given right to inflict manifest destiny upon any nation should the whim to do so set in. 'Legality, no such thing'. Invade who you want when you want and see how that plays out if you are not of the annointed nations.

I resent the comparison to Lyle made by Missy too. He is off the hinges when it comes to politics. At least my politics focuses on real issues. With Lyle it is conspiracy theories and extremist dalliancing. Lyle cares about nothing except Obama and caring for four people is just a cover. It is clearly just a feeble attempt to attack Obama.

Such outrage about 4 dead overseas, but Lyle couldn't give a hoot about American people. Where is his outrage when American people are getting shot dead everyday? There is none because that doesn't fit the agenda. He would happily harp on about 4 people and ignore 30,000 shot every year.

[El Kabong]

miles in all seriousness go fuck yourself....I'm tired of your bullshit, I've been tired of it for quite a while. You are a coward and you're not half as smart as you think you are...you teach English, big whoopty fuck....you're a nobody, a nothing, a worthless blob of DNA that can type out complaints on a boxing website. Nobody cares about your class size, nobody cares about your cutting yourself, nobody cares about your hatred of America....nobody. You are but white noise, a minor ignorant disturbance of vile self loathing and hate. Go back to your own topics of "hot drinks" and whatever other nonsense you post about and leave the politics to people who have an understanding of what happened.

I cheers to the day they find you face down in the gutter where you belong and I mean every single syllable of that

[Gandalf]

I am sure you do, but once again you bring out stuff on public boards that we somewhat agree to keep hidden. That is a breach of conduct here and no matter how much we don't get along we have to keep to those basic rules.

I raised some points which have been ignored as you cannot answer without looking like a hypocrite I and simply said that I loathe to be compared with you; even as an opposite, because I have nothing in common with you.

The truth is that you have no idea about politics. You are just a silly little boy hyperventilating on what your right wing media is telling you to suffocate over and it is pathetic. Instead when someone comes out and says it to your face that you are full of shit, you get all gay and bring up hidden board stuff. I have a degree in the subject, do you? Get out of here with me not being able to talk about the subject. I am one of the most qualified here and much more than you.

That is the problem with you, Lyle. It is all posture and when someone like me comes along and will simply tell it straight, you get all bum hurt and talk a load of stuff that is not connected. You are really low. I'm glad more people are starting to call you out on your nonsense stances, but you don't bring up stuff that is hidden. Wish me dead all you want anywhere, but we don't talk about Fight Club. Prick.

[El Kabong]

I am sure you do, but once again you bring out stuff on public boards that we somewhat agree to keep hidden. That is a breach of conduct here and no matter how much we don't get along we have to keep to those basic rules.

I raised some points which have been ignored as you cannot answer without looking like a hypocrite I and simply said that I loathe to be compared with you; even as an opposite, because I have nothing in common with you.

The truth is that you have no idea about politics. You are just a silly little boy hyperventilating on what your right wing media is telling you to suffocate over and it is pathetic. Instead when someone comes out and says it to your face that you are full of shit, you get all gay and bring up hidden board stuff. I have a degree in the subject, do you? Get out of here with me not being able to talk about the subject. I am one of the most qualified here and much more than you.

That is the problem with you, Lyle. It is all posture and when someone like me comes along and will simply tell it straight, you get all bum hurt and talk a load of stuff that is not connected. You are really low. I'm glad more people are starting to call you out on your nonsense stances, but you don't bring up stuff that is hidden. Wish me dead all you want anywhere, but we don't talk about Fight Club. Prick.

If you don't like what I say then don't fucking read it, simple as that....simple....as.....that.

[Gandalf]

I am sure you do, but once again you bring out stuff on public boards that we somewhat agree to keep hidden. That is a breach of conduct here and no matter how much we don't get along we have to keep to those basic rules.

I raised some points which have been ignored as you cannot answer without looking like a hypocrite I and simply said that I loathe to be compared with you; even as an opposite, because I have nothing in common with you.

The truth is that you have no idea about politics. You are just a silly little boy hyperventilating on what your right wing media is telling you to suffocate over and it is pathetic. Instead when someone comes out and says it to your face that you are full of shit, you get all gay and bring up hidden board stuff. I have a degree in the subject, do you? Get out of here with me not being able to talk about the subject. I am one of the most qualified here and much more than you.

That is the problem with you, Lyle. It is all posture and when someone like me comes along and will simply tell it straight, you get all bum hurt and talk a load of stuff that is not connected. You are really low. I'm glad more people are starting to call you out on your nonsense stances, but you don't bring up stuff that is hidden. Wish me dead all you want anywhere, but we don't talk about Fight Club. Prick.

If you don't like what I say then don't fucking read it, simple as that....simple....as.....that.

I can read what I want and have no problems with it, but it is public and some of that information was revealed on non public forums. Instead, you got all evasive and the only way to respond was to be a bitch. That is why you should never talk politics, because you are base. You have nothing to argue. You don't care about American people, so stop with the fraudster approach. If this is the best you can do politically, then God help you. My political threads were better than this shit, and they were genuine.

Again, you avoided all the issues. I am qualified to talk about the subject, what is your basis beyond the latest discredited and mocked US rag? Or should I say women's rag daily, to appropriate your own rather vile language usage.

Again, it all boils down to me apparently thinking myself too clever and being a coward and that is something that seems to obsess you somewhat. I am smarter than you Lyle, but you just don't like it. I think some are smarter than me too and they know who they are, but certainly not you. And you are just sad with your one dimensional right wing noisy politics. There is no nuance at all. At least I had the decency to just opt out of forum politics when I realised I was annoying and people will only say it when they think they are free from you. I will just tell you that are a tit to your face. As for being a coward, are you serious? The coward is the man in an ordinary life who never resists. That isn't really me. It is you.

[El Kabong]

I can read what I want and have no problems with it, but it is public and some of that information was revealed on non public forums.

Oh so your feelings are hurt....a thousand pardons....maybe instead of bitching about it you can just ask a mod to move the thread you dumb cunt

[VictorCharlie]

I also find VC quite hilarious with his pompous spiel about there being no
such thing as an illegal or legal war. So American. Of course it cannot be illegal if it is us doing it! Just as the lunatic Israeli's believe settlement building is nothing more than putting up trees in the park, it is America's god given right to inflict manifest destiny upon any nation should the whim to do so set in. 'Legality, no such thing'. Invade who you want when you want and see how that plays out if you are not of the annointed nations.

There isn't anything pompous about my post. There is not a legal precedent for when war is allowed or not. I think you confuse international law on how war is conducted with a non-existant legal basis to go to war. This is true for all countries not just the US and I never said different if you had any ability at objectivity you'd have realized that. We've had this conversation before and you were never able to provide the international legal binding document that prescribed when military action is "legal" or the legal body that rules on such things and typically resorted to threatening me with bodily harm. The act of going to war is a lot of things but it is not a matter of legality.