Benghazi...oh you knew it was coming

[Gandalf]

I am sure you do, but once again you bring out stuff on public boards that we somewhat agree to keep hidden. That is a breach of conduct here and no matter how much we don't get along we have to keep to those basic rules.

I raised some points which have been ignored as you cannot answer without looking like a hypocrite I and simply said that I loathe to be compared with you; even as an opposite, because I have nothing in common with you.

The truth is that you have no idea about politics. You are just a silly little boy hyperventilating on what your right wing media is telling you to suffocate over and it is pathetic. Instead when someone comes out and says it to your face that you are full of shit, you get all gay and bring up hidden board stuff. I have a degree in the subject, do you? Get out of here with me not being able to talk about the subject. I am one of the most qualified here and much more than you.

That is the problem with you, Lyle. It is all posture and when someone like me comes along and will simply tell it straight, you get all bum hurt and talk a load of stuff that is not connected. You are really low. I'm glad more people are starting to call you out on your nonsense stances, but you don't bring up stuff that is hidden. Wish me dead all you want anywhere, but we don't talk about Fight Club. Prick.

[El Kabong]

I am sure you do, but once again you bring out stuff on public boards that we somewhat agree to keep hidden. That is a breach of conduct here and no matter how much we don't get along we have to keep to those basic rules.

I raised some points which have been ignored as you cannot answer without looking like a hypocrite I and simply said that I loathe to be compared with you; even as an opposite, because I have nothing in common with you.

The truth is that you have no idea about politics. You are just a silly little boy hyperventilating on what your right wing media is telling you to suffocate over and it is pathetic. Instead when someone comes out and says it to your face that you are full of shit, you get all gay and bring up hidden board stuff. I have a degree in the subject, do you? Get out of here with me not being able to talk about the subject. I am one of the most qualified here and much more than you.

That is the problem with you, Lyle. It is all posture and when someone like me comes along and will simply tell it straight, you get all bum hurt and talk a load of stuff that is not connected. You are really low. I'm glad more people are starting to call you out on your nonsense stances, but you don't bring up stuff that is hidden. Wish me dead all you want anywhere, but we don't talk about Fight Club. Prick.

If you don't like what I say then don't fucking read it, simple as that....simple....as.....that.

[Gandalf]

I am sure you do, but once again you bring out stuff on public boards that we somewhat agree to keep hidden. That is a breach of conduct here and no matter how much we don't get along we have to keep to those basic rules.

I raised some points which have been ignored as you cannot answer without looking like a hypocrite I and simply said that I loathe to be compared with you; even as an opposite, because I have nothing in common with you.

The truth is that you have no idea about politics. You are just a silly little boy hyperventilating on what your right wing media is telling you to suffocate over and it is pathetic. Instead when someone comes out and says it to your face that you are full of shit, you get all gay and bring up hidden board stuff. I have a degree in the subject, do you? Get out of here with me not being able to talk about the subject. I am one of the most qualified here and much more than you.

That is the problem with you, Lyle. It is all posture and when someone like me comes along and will simply tell it straight, you get all bum hurt and talk a load of stuff that is not connected. You are really low. I'm glad more people are starting to call you out on your nonsense stances, but you don't bring up stuff that is hidden. Wish me dead all you want anywhere, but we don't talk about Fight Club. Prick.

If you don't like what I say then don't fucking read it, simple as that....simple....as.....that.

I can read what I want and have no problems with it, but it is public and some of that information was revealed on non public forums. Instead, you got all evasive and the only way to respond was to be a bitch. That is why you should never talk politics, because you are base. You have nothing to argue. You don't care about American people, so stop with the fraudster approach. If this is the best you can do politically, then God help you. My political threads were better than this shit, and they were genuine.

Again, you avoided all the issues. I am qualified to talk about the subject, what is your basis beyond the latest discredited and mocked US rag? Or should I say women's rag daily, to appropriate your own rather vile language usage.

Again, it all boils down to me apparently thinking myself too clever and being a coward and that is something that seems to obsess you somewhat. I am smarter than you Lyle, but you just don't like it. I think some are smarter than me too and they know who they are, but certainly not you. And you are just sad with your one dimensional right wing noisy politics. There is no nuance at all. At least I had the decency to just opt out of forum politics when I realised I was annoying and people will only say it when they think they are free from you. I will just tell you that are a tit to your face. As for being a coward, are you serious? The coward is the man in an ordinary life who never resists. That isn't really me. It is you.

[El Kabong]

I can read what I want and have no problems with it, but it is public and some of that information was revealed on non public forums.

Oh so your feelings are hurt....a thousand pardons....maybe instead of bitching about it you can just ask a mod to move the thread you dumb cunt

[Gandalf]

I can read what I want and have no problems with it, but it is public and some of that information was revealed on non public forums.

Oh so your feelings are hurt....a thousand pardons....maybe instead of bitching about it you can just ask a mod to move the thread you dumb cunt

My feelings are not hurt in the slightest, but I just think you have acted poorly. I will not act for the Mods nor ask for their help. They can see and do as they see fit.

You though should know better and I hope everyone that reads this thread just sees you a little more as the sly weasel that that you are.

I raised a number of points in this thread and you answered none. It is because you couldn't. You are a silly young man who pretends to know something about the world, but has never lived beyond his own home state. You haven't a clue.

[El Kabong]

My feelings are not hurt in the slightest, but I just think you have acted poorly. I will not act for the Mods nor ask for their help. They can see and do as they see fit.

You though should know better and I hope everyone that reads this thread just sees you a little more as the sly weasel that that you are.

I raised a number of points in this thread and you answered none. It is because you couldn't. You are a silly young man who pretends to know something about the world, but has never lived beyond his own home state. You haven't a clue.

Points like what? Citizens in other nations being killed in a WAR ZONE? Yeah that has NEVER happened before . "Illegal wars"...VC just nailed you on that bullshit!...What do you want to ask me miles, go ahead....I'm listening

[Gandalf]

My feelings are not hurt in the slightest, but I just think you have acted poorly. I will not act for the Mods nor ask for their help. They can see and do as they see fit.

You though should know better and I hope everyone that reads this thread just sees you a little more as the sly weasel that that you are.

I raised a number of points in this thread and you answered none. It is because you couldn't. You are a silly young man who pretends to know something about the world, but has never lived beyond his own home state. You haven't a clue.

Points like what? Citizens in other nations being killed in a WAR ZONE? Yeah that has NEVER happened before . "Illegal wars"...VC just nailed you on that bullshit!...What do you want to ask me miles, go ahead....I'm listening

He didn't nail anything. All you have done is an ice skating job. For the first time in a while I am smiling. I am shocked at your cheek. VC has studied at an American University and paid for by the military, he is paid for and bought. The man will kill on request and will drum up a few pages from his muscular tomes, but really American history is false history as Norman Finklestein has proven.

[VictorCharlie]

I also find VC quite hilarious with his pompous spiel about there being no
such thing as an illegal or legal war. So American. Of course it cannot be illegal if it is us doing it! Just as the lunatic Israeli's believe settlement building is nothing more than putting up trees in the park, it is America's god given right to inflict manifest destiny upon any nation should the whim to do so set in. 'Legality, no such thing'. Invade who you want when you want and see how that plays out if you are not of the annointed nations.

There isn't anything pompous about my post. There is not a legal precedent for when war is allowed or not. I think you confuse international law on how war is conducted with a non-existant legal basis to go to war. This is true for all countries not just the US and I never said different if you had any ability at objectivity you'd have realized that. We've had this conversation before and you were never able to provide the international legal binding document that prescribed when military action is "legal" or the legal body that rules on such things and typically resorted to threatening me with bodily harm. The act of going to war is a lot of things but it is not a matter of legality.

[El Kabong]

I also find VC quite hilarious with his pompous spiel about there being no
such thing as an illegal or legal war. So American. Of course it cannot be illegal if it is us doing it! Just as the lunatic Israeli's believe settlement building is nothing more than putting up trees in the park, it is America's god given right to inflict manifest destiny upon any nation should the whim to do so set in. 'Legality, no such thing'. Invade who you want when you want and see how that plays out if you are not of the annointed nations.

There isn't anything pompous about my post. There is not a legal precedent for when war is allowed or not. I think you confuse international law on how war is conducted with a non-existant legal basis to go to war. This is true for all countries not just the US and I never said different if you had any ability at objectivity you'd have realized that. We've had this conversation before and you were never able to provide the international legal binding document that prescribed when military action is "legal" or the legal body that rules on such things but you couldn't provide any such things and typically resorted to threatening me with bodily harm. The act of going to war is a lot of things but it is not a matter of legality.

BOOM! The soldier just took your dumbass to school miles.....IN YOUR FACE!!!!!! Go back to your day job Mr. Smarty pants.

[Gandalf]

I also find VC quite hilarious with his pompous spiel about there being no
such thing as an illegal or legal war. So American. Of course it cannot be illegal if it is us doing it! Just as the lunatic Israeli's believe settlement building is nothing more than putting up trees in the park, it is America's god given right to inflict manifest destiny upon any nation should the whim to do so set in. 'Legality, no such thing'. Invade who you want when you want and see how that plays out if you are not of the annointed nations.

There isn't anything pompous about my post. There is not a legal precedent for when war is allowed or not. I think you confuse international law on how war is conducted with a non-existant legal basis to go to war. This is true for all countries not just the US and I never said different if you had any ability at objectivity you'd have realized that. We've had this conversation before and you were never able to provide the international legal binding document that prescribed when military action is "legal" or the legal body that rules on such things and typically resorted to threatening me with bodily harm. The act of going to war is a lot of things but it is not a matter of legality.

Oh dear. Typical American again.

A war of aggression is illegal post WW2. Vietnam was illegal, Iraq was certainly illegal. America does not have the right to leave all rulings meaningless just because US lawyers say it is so. It is an absurd notion though Van Childs clearly studied at an American University and thus America should have a free pass here on after. I imagine Van Childs studied at a good wholesome US university.

I see Lyle is now telling me to go to school. Told by a SOLDIER that AMERICA can basically do what it wants. Oh, I am so schooled by world opinion. Erm, in my face!

Lyle of course, never had a word to say back to me at any point.

[El Kabong]

Oh dear. Typical American again.

A war of aggression is illegal post WW2. Vietnam was illegal, Iraq was certainly illegal. America does not have the right to leave all rulings meaningless just because US lawyers say it is so. It is an absurd notion though Van Childs clearly studied at an American University and thus America should have a free pass here on after. I imagine Van Childs studied at a good wholesome US university.

I see Lyle is now telling me to go to school. Told by a SOLDIER that AMERICA can basically do what it wants. Oh, I am so schooled by world opinion. Erm, in my face!

Lyle of course, never had a word to say back to me at any point.

Ooooh miles, you're sooo unbiased

[VictorCharlie]

Again Miles, provide the legally binding document that spells out the criteria of when a military operations are legal/illegal and what legal court rules on such matters. Something can't have a legal basis w/o a spelled out law and body that rules on such matters. Even things like the Geneva Convention accords are not internationally binding b/c not all countries signed all of them. I'll say again since you can't help but make this about your ignorant bigotry towards America. I don't hold the concept of war and legality only true for the US. I'm not sure how where I went to college has any bearing on this topic. It is part of my job to have a thorough understanding of the Law of Landwarfare. Particularly to keep myself and my subordinates out of prison. Needless to say I think I have a much better understanding of these issues than you. But hey bro if it makes you feel like you are sticking it to the bid bad US by using made up phrases like "illegal war" you right ahead. The educated and informed folk will continue to laugh at you.

[Gandalf]

Again Miles, provide the legally binding document that spells out the criteria of when a military operations are legal/illegal and what legal court rules on such matters. Something can't have a legal basis w/o a spelled out law and body that rules on such matters. Even things like the Geneva Convention accords are not internationally binding b/c not all countries signed all of them. I'll say again since you can't help but make this about your ignorant bigotry towards America. I don't hold the concept of war and legality only true for the US. I'm not sure how where I went to college has any bearing on this topic. It is part of my job to have a thorough understanding of the Law of Landwarfare. Particularly to keep myself and my subordinates out of prison. Needless to say I think I have a much better understanding of these issues than you. But hey bro if it makes you feel like you are sticking it to the bid bad US by using made up phrases like "illegal war" you right ahead. The educated and informed folk will continue to laugh at you.

Nobody laughs, you silly servant of a corrupt global super power.

A war of aggression, as defined by Nuremburg is illegal. You are NOT an expert, others are and you have a serious agenda. You are tool within a superpower, and want to pay for your life. Your moral concerns are irrelevant. You want to pay for your children to do well and protecting your interests is a primary concern. You are not an expert on anything, you are an agent of a superpower.

Nobody is laughing at me as I have no vested interest. I don't work for the military, I don't pretend to justify invasions of nations, or kill others to secure the welfare of my children. You do and that is why you are not to be trusted. You are the problem. You will NEVER admit that your nation is sick and is the problem and makes all of this happen.

People like Finklestein and Chomsky are Jews working in the system and telling truth, but you are not on that level and so I laugh at you with your military background, delusion, and pretence at being a lawyer. Dershowitz is a lawyer and if you are like that then you clearly went to Harvard, but no you didn't, and you not an expert in anything whence the way you think. Real thinkers laugh at people like you. People that joined the military in the first place. You couldn't do anything else.

[Kirkland Laing]

I also find VC quite hilarious with his pompous spiel about there being no
such thing as an illegal or legal war. So American. Of course it cannot be illegal if it is us doing it! Just as the lunatic Israeli's believe settlement building is nothing more than putting up trees in the park, it is America's god given right to inflict manifest destiny upon any nation should the whim to do so set in. 'Legality, no such thing'. Invade who you want when you want and see how that plays out if you are not of the annointed nations.

There isn't anything pompous about my post. There is not a legal precedent for when war is allowed or not. I think you confuse international law on how war is conducted with a non-existant legal basis to go to war. This is true for all countries not just the US and I never said different if you had any ability at objectivity you'd have realized that. We've had this conversation before and you were never able to provide the international legal binding document that prescribed when military action is "legal" or the legal body that rules on such things and typically resorted to threatening me with bodily harm. The act of going to war is a lot of things but it is not a matter of legality.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iraq war illegal, says Annan

[El Kabong]

I also find VC quite hilarious with his pompous spiel about there being no
such thing as an illegal or legal war. So American. Of course it cannot be illegal if it is us doing it! Just as the lunatic Israeli's believe settlement building is nothing more than putting up trees in the park, it is America's god given right to inflict manifest destiny upon any nation should the whim to do so set in. 'Legality, no such thing'. Invade who you want when you want and see how that plays out if you are not of the annointed nations.

There isn't anything pompous about my post. There is not a legal precedent for when war is allowed or not. I think you confuse international law on how war is conducted with a non-existant legal basis to go to war. This is true for all countries not just the US and I never said different if you had any ability at objectivity you'd have realized that. We've had this conversation before and you were never able to provide the international legal binding document that prescribed when military action is "legal" or the legal body that rules on such things and typically resorted to threatening me with bodily harm. The act of going to war is a lot of things but it is not a matter of legality.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iraq war illegal, says Annan

The UN is impotent, corrupt, and more inept than the Obama Administration