Benghazi...oh you knew it was coming

[Kirkland Laing]

I also find VC quite hilarious with his pompous spiel about there being no
such thing as an illegal or legal war. So American. Of course it cannot be illegal if it is us doing it! Just as the lunatic Israeli's believe settlement building is nothing more than putting up trees in the park, it is America's god given right to inflict manifest destiny upon any nation should the whim to do so set in. 'Legality, no such thing'. Invade who you want when you want and see how that plays out if you are not of the annointed nations.

There isn't anything pompous about my post. There is not a legal precedent for when war is allowed or not. I think you confuse international law on how war is conducted with a non-existant legal basis to go to war. This is true for all countries not just the US and I never said different if you had any ability at objectivity you'd have realized that. We've had this conversation before and you were never able to provide the international legal binding document that prescribed when military action is "legal" or the legal body that rules on such things and typically resorted to threatening me with bodily harm. The act of going to war is a lot of things but it is not a matter of legality.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iraq war illegal, says Annan

[El Kabong]

I also find VC quite hilarious with his pompous spiel about there being no
such thing as an illegal or legal war. So American. Of course it cannot be illegal if it is us doing it! Just as the lunatic Israeli's believe settlement building is nothing more than putting up trees in the park, it is America's god given right to inflict manifest destiny upon any nation should the whim to do so set in. 'Legality, no such thing'. Invade who you want when you want and see how that plays out if you are not of the annointed nations.

There isn't anything pompous about my post. There is not a legal precedent for when war is allowed or not. I think you confuse international law on how war is conducted with a non-existant legal basis to go to war. This is true for all countries not just the US and I never said different if you had any ability at objectivity you'd have realized that. We've had this conversation before and you were never able to provide the international legal binding document that prescribed when military action is "legal" or the legal body that rules on such things and typically resorted to threatening me with bodily harm. The act of going to war is a lot of things but it is not a matter of legality.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iraq war illegal, says Annan

The UN is impotent, corrupt, and more inept than the Obama Administration

[Kirkland Laing]

I also find VC quite hilarious with his pompous spiel about there being no
such thing as an illegal or legal war. So American. Of course it cannot be illegal if it is us doing it! Just as the lunatic Israeli's believe settlement building is nothing more than putting up trees in the park, it is America's god given right to inflict manifest destiny upon any nation should the whim to do so set in. 'Legality, no such thing'. Invade who you want when you want and see how that plays out if you are not of the annointed nations.

There isn't anything pompous about my post. There is not a legal precedent for when war is allowed or not. I think you confuse international law on how war is conducted with a non-existant legal basis to go to war. This is true for all countries not just the US and I never said different if you had any ability at objectivity you'd have realized that. We've had this conversation before and you were never able to provide the international legal binding document that prescribed when military action is "legal" or the legal body that rules on such things and typically resorted to threatening me with bodily harm. The act of going to war is a lot of things but it is not a matter of legality.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iraq war illegal, says Annan

The UN is impotent, corrupt, and more inept than the Obama Administration

It's impotent because motheruckers like George Bush ignore the will of its members and do what the fuck they want.As far as corruption goes the UN is a vestal virgin compared to the American political system.

[Kirkland Laing]

Anyway, Benghazi! All it took was a few facts to shut you up. Never mind, I'm sure the next scandal really will be bigger than Watergate. That'll be the one thatg ets Obama, you just wait.

[El Kabong]

It's impotent because motheruckers like George Bush ignore the will of its members and do what the fuck they want.As far as corruption goes the UN is a vestal virgin compared to the American political system.

It's impotent because they rely all too heavily on the United States doing the heavy lifting and because the UN "leaders" are corrupt, Kofi Annan among them

As Iraq's interim defense minister Hazem Sha'alan remarked, "Where was Kofi Annan when Saddam Hussein was slaughtering the Iraqi people like sheep?"

The UN has bungled mission after mission and been slow to react examples: Rwanda, Bosnia, Sudan

Kofi Annan's Legacy of Failure

You didn't watch the videos apparently

[Kirkland Laing]

It's impotent because motheruckers like George Bush ignore the will of its members and do what the fuck they want.As far as corruption goes the UN is a vestal virgin compared to the American political system.

It's impotent because they rely all too heavily on the United States doing the heavy lifting and because the UN "leaders" are corrupt, Kofi Annan among them

As Iraq's interim defense minister Hazem Sha'alan remarked, "Where was Kofi Annan when Saddam Hussein was slaughtering the Iraqi people like sheep?"

The UN has bungled mission after mission and been slow to react examples: Rwanda, Bosnia, Sudan

Kofi Annan's Legacy of Failure

You didn't watch the videos apparently

The UN is only as good as its members can let it be. When you have rogue nations like America doing whatever they want it's very difficult to be effective. The UN is at best an imperfect setup and often worse than that but it's the best multilateral conflict/problem resolver we have and it would work much better if its most powerful members all stuck to the rules they signed up to.

[VictorCharlie]

I also find VC quite hilarious with his pompous spiel about there being no
such thing as an illegal or legal war. So American. Of course it cannot be illegal if it is us doing it! Just as the lunatic Israeli's believe settlement building is nothing more than putting up trees in the park, it is America's god given right to inflict manifest destiny upon any nation should the whim to do so set in. 'Legality, no such thing'. Invade who you want when you want and see how that plays out if you are not of the annointed nations.

There isn't anything pompous about my post. There is not a legal precedent for when war is allowed or not. I think you confuse international law on how war is conducted with a non-existant legal basis to go to war. This is true for all countries not just the US and I never said different if you had any ability at objectivity you'd have realized that. We've had this conversation before and you were never able to provide the international legal binding document that prescribed when military action is "legal" or the legal body that rules on such things and typically resorted to threatening me with bodily harm. The act of going to war is a lot of things but it is not a matter of legality.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iraq war illegal, says Annan

The UN doesn't create international law on the legality of war that all nations must follow. No one does. Annan said "I hope we do not see another Iraq-type operation for a long time - without UN approval and much broader support from the international community," So he can say illegal but what he means is acts of aggression are ok if you get enough votes in the UN.

[El Kabong]

Exclusive: Benghazi Talking Points Underwent 12 Revisions, Scrubbed of Terror Reference - ABC News

Hmmmm....curious, why ever would the Obama Administration do that? I mean what is the benefit of playing down terrorism....and doing that isn't that kind of like lying? I mean A actually happened but you go on tv and tell the American people that B happened, that's kind of like lying isn't it?

The significant edits – deleting references to al Qaeda and the CIA’s warnings – came after a White House meeting on the Saturday before Ambassador Susan Rice appeared on five Sunday shows.


Just curious is all...I mean it's not likely to have affected the election or anything

[Kirkland Laing]

Exclusive: Benghazi Talking Points Underwent 12 Revisions, Scrubbed of Terror Reference - ABC News

Hmmmm....curious, why ever would the Obama Administration do that? I mean what is the benefit of playing down terrorism....and doing that isn't that kind of like lying? I mean A actually happened but you go on tv and tell the American people that B happened, that's kind of like lying isn't it?

The significant edits – deleting references to al Qaeda and the CIA’s warnings – came after a White House meeting on the Saturday before Ambassador Susan Rice appeared on five Sunday shows.


Just curious is all...I mean it's not likely to have affected the election or anything

So we've gone from "he left them there to die!" to "somebody altered some talking points for administration talking heads to say on TV!".

Fantastic. Never mind Lyle, here's Benghazi explained in eight funny minutes by the Daily Show. Even English peeps can watch this video :

Stewart Tears Into the 'Denizens of Bullsh*t Mountain' for Benghazi Fearmongering | Video Cafe

Don't forget Lyle, the Daily Show is where morons go to get their news.

[El Kabong]

So we've gone from "he left them there to die!" to "somebody altered some talking points for administration talking heads to say on TV!".

Fantastic. Never mind Lyle, here's Benghazi explained in eight funny minutes by the Daily Show. Even English peeps can watch this video :

Stewart Tears Into the 'Denizens of Bullsh*t Mountain' for Benghazi Fearmongering | Video Cafe

Don't forget Lyle, the Daily Show is where morons go to get their news.

You get your news there so point proven, thanks for providing that clarification for anyone paying attention to this argument.

Is there anything you won't be contrarian about? Anything at all? How about the fact that Obama was M.I.A for damn near 8 hours added to which somebody gave 2 orders to stand down....there's only 1 person legally capable of giving those orders and that's the Commander-in-Chief, President Barack Hussein Obama.

So you see 0 problem in the Obama Administration changing the story of what happened in Benghazi 12 times? 1, 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11....12 times? If W changed his story once you'd have been up his ass howling about impeachment!


http://www.whitehousedossier.com/201...clinton-obama/ Internal Benghazi Review Ignored Clinton, Obama

[El Kabong]

Here's the video if you care to watch one sometime...I know its difficult for you to get your ass kicked YET AGAIN by me in a debate....it's ok that you lost....again......it's ok....there there little Kirkland

[El Kabong]

Oh no....even more evidence

Critical High Threat level and Sec. of State Hildebeast Clinton denied more security for Amb Stevens.


Your move genius

[Kirkland Laing]

So we've gone from "he left them there to die!" to "somebody altered some talking points for administration talking heads to say on TV!".

Fantastic. Never mind Lyle, here's Benghazi explained in eight funny minutes by the Daily Show. Even English peeps can watch this video :

Stewart Tears Into the 'Denizens of Bullsh*t Mountain' for Benghazi Fearmongering | Video Cafe

Don't forget Lyle, the Daily Show is where morons go to get their news.

You get your news there so point proven, thanks for providing that clarification for anyone paying attention to this argument.

Is there anything you won't be contrarian about? Anything at all? How about the fact that Obama was M.I.A for damn near 8 hours added to which somebody gave 2 orders to stand down....there's only 1 person legally capable of giving those orders and that's the Commander-in-Chief, President Barack Hussein Obama.

So you see 0 problem in the Obama Administration changing the story of what happened in Benghazi 12 times? 1, 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11....12 times? If W changed his story once you'd have been up his ass howling about impeachment!


Internal Benghazi Review Ignored Clinton, Obama | The Blog on Obama: White House Dossier Internal Benghazi Review Ignored Clinton, Obama

What do you mean Obama was m issing for eight hours? From what? Who gave two orders to whom to stand down? Provide facts and evidence Lyle.

And there was a fight between the State Department and the CIA over what they were going to say about the incident. There were twelve revisions to the eventual statement. I'm surprised it wasn't 112. That's just normal for two departments in any big company or small government, never mind the US government. So so far there's evidence of an argument between two government depatments over how the response statement should be worded. And that's the entire scandal.

[El Kabong]

What do you mean Obama was m issing for eight hours? From what? Who gave two orders to whom to stand down? Provide facts and evidence Lyle.

And there was a fight between the State Department and the CIA over what they were going to say about the incident. There were twelve revisions to the eventual statement. I'm surprised it wasn't 112. That's just normal for two departments in any big company or small government, never mind the US government. So so far there's evidence of an argument between two government depatments over how the response statement should be worded. And that's the entire scandal.

I mean exactly what I said, Obama's whereabouts on the night of the Benghazi attacks (plural) are unknown/not specified.....

THE PEOPLE'S EXHIBIT A:


Sorry, you have to watch a video




Do you get tired of being wrong & losing these arguments? How will you defend Obama for the IRS scandal Sicking the IRS on your enemies is very "Nixonian", things don't look good for YOUR BOY now do they?

[Kirkland Laing]

I also find VC quite hilarious with his pompous spiel about there being no
such thing as an illegal or legal war. So American. Of course it cannot be illegal if it is us doing it! Just as the lunatic Israeli's believe settlement building is nothing more than putting up trees in the park, it is America's god given right to inflict manifest destiny upon any nation should the whim to do so set in. 'Legality, no such thing'. Invade who you want when you want and see how that plays out if you are not of the annointed nations.

There isn't anything pompous about my post. There is not a legal precedent for when war is allowed or not. I think you confuse international law on how war is conducted with a non-existant legal basis to go to war. This is true for all countries not just the US and I never said different if you had any ability at objectivity you'd have realized that. We've had this conversation before and you were never able to provide the international legal binding document that prescribed when military action is "legal" or the legal body that rules on such things and typically resorted to threatening me with bodily harm. The act of going to war is a lot of things but it is not a matter of legality.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iraq war illegal, says Annan

The UN doesn't create international law on the legality of war that all nations must follow. No one does. Annan said "I hope we do not see another Iraq-type operation for a long time - without UN approval and much broader support from the international community," So he can say illegal but what he means is acts of aggression are ok if you get enough votes in the UN.

The US is a signatory to the UN charter. The US acted against the wishes of the Security Council and the vast majority of the world's countries in invading Iraq. America had no legal sanction to invade. How the UN defines whether acts of aggression are OK or not is up to them.