Who next for burns?

[IamInuit]

It never ceases to amaze me just how fast people are thrown under the bus. So he had a rough night so what? He had a rocky 8 months having fights canceled and a switch in promoters. He probably took this guy as lightly as we did never mind the style. He still persevered and showed amazing heart. Champions have bad nights. Its part of the sport. I'm sure at the time that Paul Pender had no business being in the ring with Robinson let alone beating him twice.

Burns just needs to keep on the same road map. He's got an optional now and he might want to use it or go for Abril or Vazquez. I don't see Broner coming back to 135 and he was all wrong for Ricky before Saturday and still is.

[Silkeyjoe]

It never ceases to amaze me just how fast people are thrown under the bus. So he had a rough night so what? He had a rocky 8 months having fights canceled and a switch in promoters. He probably took this guy as lightly as we did never mind the style. He still persevered and showed amazing heart. Champions have bad nights. Its part of the sport. I'm sure at the time that Paul Pender had no business being in the ring with Robinson let alone beating him twice.

Burns just needs to keep on the same road map. He's got an optional now and he might want to use it or go for Abril or Vazquez. I don't see Broner coming back to 135 and he was all wrong for Ricky before Saturday and still is.

THey are thrown under a bus just as quick as they are put on a high horse. Seriously, people talk about Ricky like he was world class and giving him a chance against Broner. He has one name on his record, Martinez, where he fought well but struggled. He then looked good against average fighters. He was over hyped and this is what happens to overhyped fighters.

[IamInuit]

It never ceases to amaze me just how fast people are thrown under the bus. So he had a rough night so what? He had a rocky 8 months having fights canceled and a switch in promoters. He probably took this guy as lightly as we did never mind the style. He still persevered and showed amazing heart. Champions have bad nights. Its part of the sport. I'm sure at the time that Paul Pender had no business being in the ring with Robinson let alone beating him twice.

Burns just needs to keep on the same road map. He's got an optional now and he might want to use it or go for Abril or Vazquez. I don't see Broner coming back to 135 and he was all wrong for Ricky before Saturday and still is.

THey are thrown under a bus just as quick as they are put on a high horse. Seriously, people talk about Ricky like he was world class and giving him a chance against Broner. He has one name on his record, Martinez, where he fought well but struggled. He then looked good against average fighters. He was over hyped and this is what happens to overhyped fighters.

No offense but that's pretzel logic. When someone lost in eras gone by it was no big deal and when someone had a bad night it was no big deal either. You name me a great and I 'll tell you about a bad night he had. Tendler boxed Leonards ears off the first time they met. So? And tell me about all these other world class fighters that are not Ricky Burns. He's a world class fighter period! or he would not be where he is today. If he's a paper tiger then so are most of the other trinket holders. I reject the notion that unless you dominate all the time without issue you are not world class. Thats simply a crock of shit.

[Silkeyjoe]

It never ceases to amaze me just how fast people are thrown under the bus. So he had a rough night so what? He had a rocky 8 months having fights canceled and a switch in promoters. He probably took this guy as lightly as we did never mind the style. He still persevered and showed amazing heart. Champions have bad nights. Its part of the sport. I'm sure at the time that Paul Pender had no business being in the ring with Robinson let alone beating him twice.

Burns just needs to keep on the same road map. He's got an optional now and he might want to use it or go for Abril or Vazquez. I don't see Broner coming back to 135 and he was all wrong for Ricky before Saturday and still is.

THey are thrown under a bus just as quick as they are put on a high horse. Seriously, people talk about Ricky like he was world class and giving him a chance against Broner. He has one name on his record, Martinez, where he fought well but struggled. He then looked good against average fighters. He was over hyped and this is what happens to overhyped fighters.

No offense but that's pretzel logic. When someone lost in eras gone by it was no big deal and when someone had a bad night it was no big deal either. You name me a great and I 'll tell you about a bad night he had. Tendler boxed Leonards ears off the first time they met. So? And tell me about all these other world class fighters that are not Ricky Burns. He's a world class fighter period! or he would not be where he is today. If he's a paper tiger then so are most of the other trinket holders. I reject the notion that unless you dominate all the time without issue you are not world class. Thats simply a crock of shit.

You are not world class until you beat world class boxers. Unfortunately Ricky has not. He was blown out of proportion far too quickly.

[Violent Demise]

It never ceases to amaze me just how fast people are thrown under the bus. So he had a rough night so what? He had a rocky 8 months having fights canceled and a switch in promoters. He probably took this guy as lightly as we did never mind the style. He still persevered and showed amazing heart. Champions have bad nights. Its part of the sport. I'm sure at the time that Paul Pender had no business being in the ring with Robinson let alone beating him twice.

Burns just needs to keep on the same road map. He's got an optional now and he might want to use it or go for Abril or Vazquez. I don't see Broner coming back to 135 and he was all wrong for Ricky before Saturday and still is.

THey are thrown under a bus just as quick as they are put on a high horse. Seriously, people talk about Ricky like he was world class and giving him a chance against Broner. He has one name on his record, Martinez, where he fought well but struggled. He then looked good against average fighters. He was over hyped and this is what happens to overhyped fighters.

No offense but that's pretzel logic. When someone lost in eras gone by it was no big deal and when someone had a bad night it was no big deal either. You name me a great and I 'll tell you about a bad night he had. Tendler boxed Leonards ears off the first time they met. So? And tell me about all these other world class fighters that are not Ricky Burns. He's a world class fighter period! or he would not be where he is today. If he's a paper tiger then so are most of the other trinket holders. I reject the notion that unless you dominate all the time without issue you are not world class. Thats simply a crock of shit.

We not in those eras no more. Different times. Different perceptions. Things are looked at differently. I agree with you that a fighter doesn't have to dominate all the time. And bad nights do happen. But he's right on Burns. He''s a title holder. But he's no where close to being a very good fighter. He's mediocre at best. Forget the Gonzalez fight. Bad night or not good fighters don't lose to Alex Arthur. They just don't

[Fenster]

It never ceases to amaze me just how fast people are thrown under the bus. So he had a rough night so what? He had a rocky 8 months having fights canceled and a switch in promoters. He probably took this guy as lightly as we did never mind the style. He still persevered and showed amazing heart. Champions have bad nights. Its part of the sport. I'm sure at the time that Paul Pender had no business being in the ring with Robinson let alone beating him twice.

Burns just needs to keep on the same road map. He's got an optional now and he might want to use it or go for Abril or Vazquez. I don't see Broner coming back to 135 and he was all wrong for Ricky before Saturday and still is.

THey are thrown under a bus just as quick as they are put on a high horse. Seriously, people talk about Ricky like he was world class and giving him a chance against Broner. He has one name on his record, Martinez, where he fought well but struggled. He then looked good against average fighters. He was over hyped and this is what happens to overhyped fighters.

No offense but that's pretzel logic. When someone lost in eras gone by it was no big deal and when someone had a bad night it was no big deal either. You name me a great and I 'll tell you about a bad night he had. Tendler boxed Leonards ears off the first time they met. So? And tell me about all these other world class fighters that are not Ricky Burns. He's a world class fighter period! or he would not be where he is today. If he's a paper tiger then so are most of the other trinket holders. I reject the notion that unless you dominate all the time without issue you are not world class. Thats simply a crock of shit.

We not in those eras no more. Different times. Different perceptions. Things are looked at differently. I agree with you that a fighter doesn't have to dominate all the time. And bad nights do happen. But he's right on Burns. He''s a title holder. But he's no where close to being a very good fighter. He's mediocre at best. Forget the Gonzalez fight. Bad night or not good fighters don't lose to Alex Arthur. They just don't

Wait a minute. The Arthur fight was 7 years ago. Boxing is littered with fighters that lose at a low level before winning in higher class. Why? Because many IMPROVE. The novice Burns that lost to Arthur wouldn't have beat Martinez, Katsidis, Moses, Gonzales, Mitchell, Gomez etc.

Burns is no way close to being an P4P fighter. However, he's a proven very good fighter in a weak division.

[IamInuit]

It never ceases to amaze me just how fast people are thrown under the bus. So he had a rough night so what? He had a rocky 8 months having fights canceled and a switch in promoters. He probably took this guy as lightly as we did never mind the style. He still persevered and showed amazing heart. Champions have bad nights. Its part of the sport. I'm sure at the time that Paul Pender had no business being in the ring with Robinson let alone beating him twice.

Burns just needs to keep on the same road map. He's got an optional now and he might want to use it or go for Abril or Vazquez. I don't see Broner coming back to 135 and he was all wrong for Ricky before Saturday and still is.

THey are thrown under a bus just as quick as they are put on a high horse. Seriously, people talk about Ricky like he was world class and giving him a chance against Broner. He has one name on his record, Martinez, where he fought well but struggled. He then looked good against average fighters. He was over hyped and this is what happens to overhyped fighters.

No offense but that's pretzel logic. When someone lost in eras gone by it was no big deal and when someone had a bad night it was no big deal either. You name me a great and I 'll tell you about a bad night he had. Tendler boxed Leonards ears off the first time they met. So? And tell me about all these other world class fighters that are not Ricky Burns. He's a world class fighter period! or he would not be where he is today. If he's a paper tiger then so are most of the other trinket holders. I reject the notion that unless you dominate all the time without issue you are not world class. Thats simply a crock of shit.

We not in those eras no more. Different times. Different perceptions. Things are looked at differently. I agree with you that a fighter doesn't have to dominate all the time. And bad nights do happen. But he's right on Burns. He''s a title holder. But he's no where close to being a very good fighter. He's mediocre at best. Forget the Gonzalez fight. Bad night or not good fighters don't lose to Alex Arthur. They just don't

So what. It makes little difference what era it is. This is boxing not tiddly winks and on any given night you can look bad or get beaten by a lesser opponent. Upsets happen. Its part of the sport and has been since they came off the grappling mat. The fact of the matter is it says a lot about boxing fans that they would just chuck a guy to the curb after years of hard work because he had a bad night. Many many champions and many in the hall of fame have had worse nights then Ricky did and against lessor opponents. How did Chavez lose to Randall? The only guy Randall fought prior to Sr was a washed up shot Rosario.