Is Golovkin the Real Deal ?

[greynotsoold]

I saw his last fight and liked it, so I've spent some time watching 5 or 6 of his fights, to educate myself. how good he is, it is hard to tell because the guys he fights are so, so, so bad. Plus, a lot of them a lefties and that is always a weirdness factor. most guys that fight southpaw do it because they are too lazy to learn how to fight- we'll debate that at another time- so it always skews things when you watch.
GGG has some funky habits. He raises his elbows when he jabs and throws his right hand- no straight punches, that I've seen, everything arcs. When he throws his right hand, he often brings his right foot forward; I thought he did it only with southpaws but he does it pretty regularly. This gets you timed and knocked out- watch botha vs Tyson and moorer to see how you counter this with your own right hand. he stays in range to much, catching punches, though in some fights he got out of reach pretty quickly.(this is how you control distance-and how you avoid telegraphing your moves).
The idea of him fighting with a Hopkins, Toney, Nunn, Hagler, etc..at 160 is pretty far fetched, laughable. If he had been fighting the guys that hagler fought, the monroes and Watts, etc... he'd be 16-4, but he'd be a much better fighter than he is now. I think he can learn buty i don't think the guys he is fighting can teach anybody anything

[Hulk]

No.

The only Real Deal is Evander Holyfield.

[Master]

Yes he is the real deal, just needs to prove it against better opposition. Macklin is a start and Kid Chocolate/Geale would be next.

[Dia bando]

Yes he is the real deal, just needs to prove it against better opposition. Macklin is a start and Kid Chocolate/Geale would be next.

GGG they say sparked Quillin, in sparring just hear say or fact.!

[Master]

Yes he is the real deal, just needs to prove it against better opposition. Macklin is a start and Kid Chocolate/Geale would be next.

GGG they say sparked Quillin, in sparring just hear say or fact.!

That means Quillen will avoid him.

[Rantcatrat]

Macklin is a good test. Macklin is a true top-ten middleweight.

Consider how good Rosado looked against J'Leon Love, and how bad he looked against Golovkin, and Love was supposed to be a good prospect.

I bet Kid Chocolate picks Rosado for his next fight.

[Spicoli]

Yes he is the real deal, just needs to prove it against better opposition. Macklin is a start and Kid Chocolate/Geale would be next.

GGG they say sparked Quillin, in sparring just hear say or fact.!

That means Quillen will avoid him.

Just because they have yet to meet I don't think hes necassarily avoiding him or that hes going out of his way to. Both have put themselves in a much brighter spotlight with maketability and likewise improvements in eachs game.

[ykdadamaja]

He is the rebirth of Kostya Tyzsu!

[Master]

He is the rebirth of Kostya Tyzsu!

Yes he is that good, a lot of good fighters from Kazakhstan.

[Beanflicker]

Golovkin is realer than Real Deal Holyfield

[IamInuit]

I totally understand what @Onetime is talking about from purely the boxing perspective.

It cracks me up. People watch the Broner fight and he’s a piece of dog shit because he didn’t iron Paulie out and struggled some but little heed is paid to the style match up. In this one Macklin gets crushed as expected because of a style match up and GGG is the next coming of Christ. Lets be honest here, he had more problems with Rosado because he moved and was but a tad slick.

I watched the British post fight online because Lapdog and gang make me want to hurl and Barker had a confident reserve about him. I’m still convinced Barker could beat him

Last night it looked like he cut the ring off like nobody has since Hagler but he cut off the ring against a guy that never knew how to use one at least defensively.

Ok I broke my self imposed Bronercott but the comparison begged to be made. One guy is much adored going into his last fight and the other despised. Imo many of the conclusions drawn are based on that fact rather then the field of play.

[Silkeyjoe]

I totally understand what @Onetime is talking about from purely the boxing perspective.

It cracks me up. People watch the Broner fight and he’s a piece of dog shit because he didn’t iron Paulie out and struggled some but little heed is paid to the style match up. In this one Macklin gets crushed as expected because of a style match up and GGG is the next coming of Christ. Lets be honest here, he had more problems with Rosado because he moved and was but a tad slick.

I watched the British post fight online because Lapdog and gang make me want to hurl and Barker had a confident reserve about him. I’m still convinced Barker could beat him

Last night it looked like he cut the ring off like nobody has since Hagler but he cut off the ring against a guy that never knew how to use one at least defensively.

Ok I broke my self imposed Bronercott but the comparison begged to be made. One guy is much adored going into his last fight and the other despised. Imo many of the conclusions drawn are based on that fact rather then the field of play.

Barker gets stopped as quick as Macklin. No doubt. Apart from him not having any trouble with Rosado, winning every second of every round. If you watch the fight and the post fight interview you can see GGG was sick. And he apologises for not doing better because of that.