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Ward beating Dawson was as impressive as Froch beating Mack. Taking a fighter from a higher weight division and bringing him down does not make an impressive win.

Pascal had already beaten Dawson at his own fucking weight and Froch chased Pascal out of the supermiddles

Froch would have stopped Dawson alot earlier than Ward did and it would have been a shot to the chin too. As I recall, Dawson took a shot to the stomach and quit. Froch wouldnt ha e given him the chance to quit.

Frochs win over Bute is a thousand times mor impressive than Wards over Dawson.
Seriously what exactly has Bute accomplished that impressed you so much? To say a win over him beats a win over Dawson is just straight moronic. Dawson is not the most exciting fighter and really I don't care much for him. But he's way more accomplished than Bute. You can say Froch exposed Bute. That's fine. But really it ain't saying much. One good look at his hand picked oppositions One good look at his tough fights. And one good look at the excuses given for not being in the Super 6 and the answer is clear. He's a skilled fighter with a below average chin and not much heart. What Froch did to him Ward, Kessler and Dawson could of done to. Really Bute is the Romania version of Allen Green
Just came across this looking for an old degale thread as hes fighting soon.

My points are all in the post you seem to have ignored of mine but ill add that unlike Dawson, Bute was rated by many to be the top fighter in the division, he had an awkward southpaw style and power and none of the other champs really fancied fighting him. It was a make or break fight for Froch to take but really he had no choice. Dawson who had been beaten soundly by Pascal draining down a weight is not an impressive win at all. No way near what Froch did. Froch would have done the same as he did to Bute, to Dawson, probably quicker too.

Froch and Kessler both fought Ward wrong. Any rematch and they just need to up the pace and work consistently. As Bika proved, Ward doesnt like pressure. Ward looked dog shit in the last couple of rounds against Bika. Neither Froch or Kessler have ever looked that vulnerable in a fight, having to hold and maul constantly for fear of being stopped.